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    (Original post by allymcb2)
    I'd pay whatever it costs. If you arent educated you may as well not be alive.
    Who sweeps your roads? Who serves you in the check out? Who wipes your back side?
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    (Original post by Bismarck)
    Too bad no one will hire you unless you have the degree.
    I would.
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    (Original post by Bismarck)
    Err, Americans have to take it every year as well. Fact is that a vast majority of Brits stop learning history when they're 14, while most Americans learn it until they're 19. The subject is just called social studies. It's taught more seriously starting from junior high.
    Why do you make such a big deal about History? Surely pupils can be served equally as well with subjects like politics and other social sciences.

    Although having said that specialisation at GCSE seems a bit of a waste in some ways.
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    (Original post by Cuddles)
    Why do you make such a big deal about History? Surely pupils can be served equally as well with subjects like politics and other social sciences.

    Although having said that specialisation at GCSE seems a bit of a waste in some ways.
    And how many take politics? The fact is that it's a disgrace to not teach the people even basic history and then expect them to be productive citizens.
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    (Original post by Bismarck)
    And how many take politics? The fact is that it's a disgrace to not teach the people even basic history and then expect them to be productive citizens.
    How much influence does basic history have on how good a citizen you are?
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    (Original post by Cuddles)
    How much influence does basic history have on how good a citizen you are?
    How can you judge the actions of today's governments of Britain and other countries when you have nothing to compare that behavior to?
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    (Original post by Bismarck)
    How can you judge the actions of today's governments of Britain and other countries when you have nothing to compare that behavior to?
    I'm not entirely sure history as it's taught from GCSE to A Level will even fit that requirement. If anything politics would.

    I'm not sure if you need to be able to do that in order to judge quality or actions. You may compare Blair to Thatcher and think, wow, Blair is a God send, but in fact that would not the be the case.
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    PSHE which is supposed to be taught from 11-16 is supposed to cover this kind of thing.

    But most teachers are usually content with just teaching sex education.
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    (Original post by Socrates)
    PSHE which is supposed to be taught from 11-16 is supposed to cover this kind of thing.

    But most teachers are usually content with just teaching sex education.
    Yeah, we did citizenship, but the lessons were a waste and I didn't learn anything in them.
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    yeah, they call the waste of an hour "citizenship" now. Pah.

    Reform of the education system was cast aside because Ruth Kelly was too scared to implent it so close to the election.
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    (Original post by Socrates)
    yeah, they call the waste of an hour "citizenship" now. Pah.

    Reform of the education system was cast aside because Ruth Kelly was too scared to implent it so close to the election.
    It's a pity they can be bothered changing the name, but not much else.

    Though, I did get good paper plane making skills.
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    (Original post by Cuddles)
    Though, I did get good paper plane making skills.
    We reserved French for that.

    And swearing at the teacher and the occasional fight. :p:
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    (Original post by Socrates)
    We reserved French for that.

    And swearing at the teacher and the occasional fight. :p:
    How very inner city of you. :p:
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    ...and utterly comprehensive.

    Inner city comprehensive educated and proud!
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    (Original post by Bismarck)
    Err, Americans have to take it every year as well. Fact is that a vast majority of Brits stop learning history when they're 14, while most Americans learn it until they're 19. The subject is just called social studies. It's taught more seriously starting from junior high.
    Where did you obtain this 'fact'?

    In response to the OP: £4,500. Excluding living costs.
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    (Original post by BellaCat)
    Where did you obtain this 'fact'?

    In response to the OP: £4,500. Excluding living costs.
    Less than 6.4% of Brits take history A-levels according to this.
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    Thats because about 15% do A Levels anyway.

    A more telling statistic would be how many do GCSE history.
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    (Original post by Socrates)
    Thats because about 15% do A Levels anyway.

    A more telling statistic would be how many do GCSE history.
    It's less than 6.4% out of the people who took A-levels. For all we know, it's 1% anyway.
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    That stat isn't neccessarily correct, given that A level History is split into both Classical and Modern (if not more) subtopics. There may be more than 6.4% of A level students doing History. Not especially important, but just thought I should add it.
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    I'd probably pay as much as I could tbh, or as much as I would realistically be able to pay back.
    Going to University is absolutely essentially and will probably be the wisest investment you will ever make- if you end up coming away with a bit of debt then at least you know you've gained something far more valuable.
 
 
 
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