I have the above mentioned head unit, it was a present for me so I can't really change it for a while. I want to know whether it's meant to have any special connectors to connect to an amp, or whether it will work fine.
Sorry I have no pics.
P.S. Not sure if this would be better in the technology forum, if so could a mod please move it.
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- Thread Starter
- 12-06-2006 23:00
- 12-06-2006 23:33
ICE would normally would go in this section. Those boyz 'n' girls in the technology forum - pah! Who needs them
I suprisingly have not heard of the unit if truth be told. But in regards to your question, most Head Units can connect to an amplifier and subwoofer if you wished. However, the H/U only offers 4x20w which is quite poor. A typical install would be 40w per channel.
But then it doesn't matter what the power of your H/U is if your speakers can't match it!
Also a quick search and review on this product dealt a major fault with a fuse which keeps blowing
Its always a pain getting a pressie which is dear but not what you want!
- 12-06-2006 23:42
has it got pre outs on the back of the HU? Like red and white jacks with pre out above it?
If so then these are what you connect to an external amp, if you are going to connect up external amps it doesn't matter how much power each channel the HU is producing as the external amp is taking the load not the HU amplifier.
Still, as i have said previously in many posts...i don't personally see the point in having a super duper ICE install in a car as you will NEVER get good sound quality in a car no matter how expensive it is due to the inherent design of a car...a big curved metal tin can, huge reverberation and refraction.
- Thread Starter
- 12-06-2006 23:45
Thanks Walshie, and kinda thanks to Gbduo.
No there aren't red and white jacks, is there a convertor I can get?
- 12-06-2006 23:50
I'm a bit of an audiophile...i work as a sound engineer and do gigs for mainstream bands so my definition of good sound is waaaaay above what most people think...it has to be!
Simple answer to a convertor...no. But you can use amps in an active mode, in other words you just connect the speaker cables to the amp rather than the amp having a dedicated feed from the HU. You lose sound quality, but if you are planning on upgrading anyway its not a bad place to start I guess. Talk to your local garage who specialises in this or Halfrauds i guess.
- 12-06-2006 23:54
This is the best thing to do:
You most probably have some poor speakers, which means there is absolute no point in getting a 1000w amp. It just doesn't make sense.
Go get yourself a 250-350w amp with a 10-12" sub. Remember, the sound quality is only as good as your speakers. The sub will have its own speaker, but a big distortion will come from the car speakers at the same time if you went too high a wattage.
- 13-06-2006 00:02
Did these two a little while ago...but they are relevent!
(Original post by Me)
Really big personal choice! As a confessed audiophile (I am a sound engineer, done gigs for bands like RBF, The Levellers, Subways and lots more!), I woul buy the absolute best i can afford, usually the more expensive the speakers the better they are.
But what is 'better' well this is really hard to define, but you should look for a full range of frequencies without clipping (i.e. distortion) of the frequencies, a good tone (this cannot be explained, your brain tells you if it is a good tone!) and the speaker reproduces the sound faithfully and makes you feel like you are hearing it live, as if the band is right in front of you and you are getting your own personal showing. Thats what a speaker and good hifi set up should do.
Unfortunately you will NEVER get this in a car, so don't even try (mainly because of the whole tin can effect and therefore reverberation and resonance is just too high) but, you can do your best to minimise the tin can effect by buying quality. You have made a good choice buying Alpine, i would buy Alpine However, for speakers companies like JL Audio are good, but you will find the small companies selling speakers for over £100 will be the best. It really depends on how big your budget is, but just buy the best you can afford, JBL are a good budget speaker, don't get Xplod by Sony, they clip frequencies really easily and IMO sound tinny, Bose are good, basically you need to test out every speaker in a big Halfords and see which one you like. If you find one you like, go away from it for 30 minutes then listen to it again and the other ones you like, this should give you a fresh idea.
If you amp your speakers (using the 4V Pre Outs on the back of the Alpine HU) then again, buy the most expensive Amp you can afford, but if you have to make a choice, by an Amp over speakers as speakers can easily be upgraded. It is really hard to say what to get, because sound is such a personal choice, you know when it sounds right but you have no idea why usually (thats my job, lol!)!
I have never actually put an audio system in my car, but as i say, i design audio systems and implement for big bands so i kinda know what i am on about! But i have no direct experience with cars as such.
I hope this gives you some ideas!
(Original post by Me)
I really cannot see the point in having an expensive stereo in your car, seriously! Maybe its cause i am an audiophile and as soon as you start getting enormous subs with big amps they start to vibrate the whole car and resonance is awful! The Tin Can effect as i said in another post.
I would get some really good 6x9s that have a good tonal range, maybe a few tweeters and be done with it. You really don't need thumping bass...and if you want that, spend your hard owned cash on a home system!
For example, a budget home system that will sound awesome...
Denon CD/MP3 Player ~£150
Denon MD Player ~£170
Denon AVR-2150 Receiver (7x100W output) £400
Kef KSC-5000 or something speakers £700 (5 Speakers w/Active 250W 12" Sub)
Quality Interconnects £100
You will get 10 times better sound, this is expensive for a budget High Quality HiFi system but seriously it will sound awesome! Where do you spend more time...
- 13-06-2006 00:05
To be honest I wouldn't bother upgrading anything else because your HU will always be a let down.
You can 'convert' high level audio outputs (speakers) to pre-amp level. You can make your own or look for a line output converter. Lots of people use them if they want to keep their stock OEM radio but still upgrade.