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Are footballer's salaries ludicrous?

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Reply 80
Original post by SFeet
I'm a big football fan and everything and try to stick up for football as much as possible, I've always said it is correct for footballers to earn the amount they are earning but now I've changed my mind. In reply to a post on the first page 'a career in football would not be appealing to youngsters if the pay wasn't like this (300k per week), I actually think if footballers were paid about 50k per week, it would still be appealing to youngsters because they will still be earning over 2.5million by the end of the year.


Why have you changed your mind? You've just stated here a reason that you think is irrelevant - did you believe that to be true before and was that enough to sway you?

I think footballers are entitled to whatever they can get. They work in a luxury business so aren't holding anyone to ransom (e.g. utilities suppliers, transport operators, banks, landlords etc), nor are they forcibly taking money from people (tax). Thus every penny they get is from someone's spare cash they were willing to throw at the football industry. Perhaps you can take issue with the disparity within football, but any money that goes to football as a whole is done with no arm twisting of the paying public at all.
Reply 81
Original post by Hopple
Why have you changed your mind? You've just stated here a reason that you think is irrelevant - did you believe that to be true before and was that enough to sway you?

I think footballers are entitled to whatever they can get. They work in a luxury business so aren't holding anyone to ransom (e.g. utilities suppliers, transport operators, banks, landlords etc), nor are they forcibly taking money from people (tax). Thus every penny they get is from someone's spare cash they were willing to throw at the football industry. Perhaps you can take issue with the disparity within football, but any money that goes to football as a whole is done with no arm twisting of the paying public at all.

Reason why I changed my mind is because I've grown up a bit and got a little understanding of the economy. And it's not about holding anyone to ransom and its not about forcibly taking money, that's not the point...My point is, why do footballers get paid so much just for playing 90 minutes of football a week (obviously they play more if they're in other competitions), some footballers don't even play those games and are still on millions just for keeping the bench nice and warm.

I also don't think it's fair that so many people are doing so many things to make this world a better place e.g. doctors saving lives countless of times, working 12 hour shifts a day (sometimes they even work at nights) and yet they do not get paid anywhere near what footballers get paid.
Original post by SFeet
Reason why I changed my mind is because I've grown up a bit and got a little understanding of the economy. And it's not about holding anyone to ransom and its not about forcibly taking money, that's not the point...My point is, why do footballers get paid so much just for playing 90 minutes of football a week (obviously they play more if they're in other competitions), some footballers don't even play those games and are still on millions just for keeping the bench nice and warm.

I also don't think it's fair that so many people are doing so many things to make this world a better place e.g. doctors saving lives countless of times, working 12 hour shifts a day (sometimes they even work at nights) and yet they do not get paid anywhere near what footballers get paid.


Footballers work 6 days a week, sometimes even 7 days. Their career last 20 years tops. They can be sold to other clubs on a whim. They don't get Christmas off and barely get a holiday in the year.
You can't compare their job to other jobs because it is not the same.
They work in a multi billion pound industry and are paid accordingly for their part in that industry. It has nothing to do with Doctors or any other profession
Reply 83
Original post by SFeet
Reason why I changed my mind is because I've grown up a bit and got a little understanding of the economy. And it's not about holding anyone to ransom and its not about forcibly taking money, that's not the point...My point is, why do footballers get paid so much just for playing 90 minutes of football a week (obviously they play more if they're in other competitions), some footballers don't even play those games and are still on millions just for keeping the bench nice and warm.

I also don't think it's fair that so many people are doing so many things to make this world a better place e.g. doctors saving lives countless of times, working 12 hour shifts a day (sometimes they even work at nights) and yet they do not get paid anywhere near what footballers get paid.


Then you are arguing we should be taxed more to pay for doctors' salaries? Footballers' salaries are representative of the spare cash we have after taxes and bills. If you feel we have too much and should be spending more on the country then that's a fair enough argument, but I don't see why you'd want to single out footballers. Should the fashion industry be so lucrative? How about the music industry? Hollywood? None of those compares to the life-saving actions of a doctor, but it is a sign of how much spare money we all have that we can throw so much money at those industries.
Reply 84
Original post by The_Faceman
Footballers work 6 days a week, sometimes even 7 days. Their career last 20 years tops. They can be sold to other clubs on a whim. They don't get Christmas off and barely get a holiday in the year.
You can't compare their job to other jobs because it is not the same.
They work in a multi billion pound industry and are paid accordingly for their part in that industry. It has nothing to do with Doctors or any other profession

'They get barley a holiday', they have most of the summer off don't they? And you won't see them coming to work at 9 and going home at 5, they come to train a few hours a day...And I know that footballers wage has nothing to do with any other profession, but I just don't think it's fair for them to get more than doctors when without doctors in this world most people would die early...However, without footballers we just lose out on a bit of entertainment. I don't even think it's an argument, footballers get paid too much
Reply 85
Original post by Hopple
Then you are arguing we should be taxed more to pay for doctors' salaries? Footballers' salaries are representative of the spare cash we have after taxes and bills. If you feel we have too much and should be spending more on the country then that's a fair enough argument, but I don't see why you'd want to single out footballers. Should the fashion industry be so lucrative? How about the music industry? Hollywood? None of those compares to the life-saving actions of a doctor, but it is a sign of how much spare money we all have that we can throw so much money at those industries.

Music industry is completely different, they earn their money by selling their music...footballers don't sell footballs to make their money, most of them just sit on a bench and get paid millions...if society is to be fairer then doctors should be paid a lot more.
Reply 86
Original post by SFeet
Music industry is completely different, they earn their money by selling their music...footballers don't sell footballs to make their money, most of them just sit on a bench and get paid millions...if society is to be fairer then doctors should be paid a lot more.


You've missed my point, or I've missed yours. Are you arguing that doctors should earn more than footballers because their work is more important, or are you just focusing on benchwarmers, saying they shouldn't be paid anything?

Ultimately though, would you support a tax hike to pay doctors better and reduce the amount of spare money we have to spend on footballers?
Original post by SFeet
'They get barley a holiday', they have most of the summer off don't they? And you won't see them coming to work at 9 and going home at 5, they come to train a few hours a day...And I know that footballers wage has nothing to do with any other profession, but I just don't think it's fair for them to get more than doctors when without doctors in this world most people would die early...However, without footballers we just lose out on a bit of entertainment. I don't even think it's an argument, footballers get paid too much


See you point suggests doctors don't get paid enough not footballers get paid to much. Judging by your comments you don't know much about their working lifes, they train considerably more than a few hours.
Without footballers we lose a bit of entertainment? It's a multi billion pound industry that pumps more money into worldwide economies than we can't even imagine. If a club makes £200 million in a year why shouldn't their biggest assets get a fair share of that money?
Reply 88
Original post by SFeet
'They get barley a holiday', they have most of the summer off don't they? And you won't see them coming to work at 9 and going home at 5, they come to train a few hours a day...And I know that footballers wage has nothing to do with any other profession, but I just don't think it's fair for them to get more than doctors when without doctors in this world most people would die early...However, without footballers we just lose out on a bit of entertainment. I don't even think it's an argument, footballers get paid too much


A lot of GPs work 4 or 4.5 days a week and get quite a lot of annual leave too. Footballers have a lot of other training than just physical such as tactics and self-development too. Just being able to run and kick a football isnt enough.

Just goes to show that people value entertainment over health? We live in a capitalist world where demand and supply sets the prices. Anyway plenty of things save lives and keep us alive - drugs that the doctors prescribe, water that the water companies provide and clean, supermarkets which bring food to us etc etc - perhaps you should start shelling out more money to everyone?

Original post by SFeet
Music industry is completely different, they earn their money by selling their music...footballers don't sell footballs to make their money, most of them just sit on a bench and get paid millions...if society is to be fairer then doctors should be paid a lot more.


That would be suppliers who manufacture footballs.. Footballers provide a service to the clubs who in turn make a lot of money by selling sports as an entertainment (along with the tv companies and advertisers etc). Err more footballers play than sit on a bench - only a select few get away with that but they still provide their service to a club which decides not to utilise them that often.

I know you're trolling but least use a bit of sense. The fact remains that plenty of people are willing to pay £30 a month for sky sports and pay £30-100 for a ticket to see a football game. There's so much money going into the game.
Of course they do, they are extremely talented individuals who have spent their entire lives trying to get better at what they do.
Secondly they have very short careers compared to most professions only around 15-20 if they are lucky and earning only the incredibly high wages for 3-5 years.

Finally you go on about the economic crisis and so on, however the players being paid extremely high wages is benefiting the economy via income tax and the owners of the clubs who are paying the wages are normally foreign, so their investment and the money they pay in tax would normally not be in the British economy for a start, leaving the economy worse off. THINK ABOUT IT
Reply 90
Original post by Hopple
You've missed my point, or I've missed yours. Are you arguing that doctors should earn more than footballers because their work is more important, or are you just focusing on benchwarmers, saying they shouldn't be paid anything?

Ultimately though, would you support a tax hike to pay doctors better and reduce the amount of spare money we have to spend on footballers?

I wouldn't necessarily say doctors should earn more than footballers because obviously with the wages being paid out to footballers at the moment, the change is going to be too big, what I'm saying is that doctors should be paid far more than they are currently being paid. And yes I would support a tax hike on the richest (including footballers) because it wouldn't make sense to increase tax on the low earners.
Reply 91
Original post by The_Faceman
See you point suggests doctors don't get paid enough not footballers get paid to much. Judging by your comments you don't know much about their working lifes, they train considerably more than a few hours.
Without footballers we lose a bit of entertainment? It's a multi billion pound industry that pumps more money into worldwide economies than we can't even imagine. If a club makes £200 million in a year why shouldn't their biggest assets get a fair share of that money?

Ok maybe a few more hours, but you won't see them train together with the team for 8 hours now would you? And so what if it's a multi billion pound industry? Would you rather loose those billions or lose our doctors?
Yes. But (correct me if I'm wrong) isn't it a small % of all footballers who earn top dollar? If so, it's not so bad. I mean, the elite of any career path tend to earn a lot more! If it's more commonplace that I thought then I'd agree, it's ludicrous.
Original post by SFeet
I wouldn't necessarily say doctors should earn more than footballers because obviously with the wages being paid out to footballers at the moment, the change is going to be too big, what I'm saying is that doctors should be paid far more than they are currently being paid. And yes I would support a tax hike on the richest (including footballers) because it wouldn't make sense to increase tax on the low earners.

From what I gather, consultants earn a fair amount. The money would probably be better spent on NHS equipment and drugs for the poor. I see what you're saying though.
Reply 94
Original post by Zerforax
A lot of GPs work 4 or 4.5 days a week and get quite a lot of annual leave too. Footballers have a lot of other training than just physical such as tactics and self-development too. Just being able to run and kick a football isnt enough.

Just goes to show that people value entertainment over health? We live in a capitalist world where demand and supply sets the prices. Anyway plenty of things save lives and keep us alive - drugs that the doctors prescribe, water that the water companies provide and clean, supermarkets which bring food to us etc etc - perhaps you should start shelling out more money to everyone?



That would be suppliers who manufacture footballs.. Footballers provide a service to the clubs who in turn make a lot of money by selling sports as an entertainment (along with the tv companies and advertisers etc). Err more footballers play than sit on a bench - only a select few get away with that but they still provide their service to a club which decides not to utilise them that often.

I know you're trolling but least use a bit of sense. The fact remains that plenty of people are willing to pay £30 a month for sky sports and pay £30-100 for a ticket to see a football game. There's so much money going into the game.

I actually think most of the players in a football teams squad don't play much e.g. man city, and they get paid millions. And how could you say I'm trolling when I'm just answering the question and defending my answers to the question of the OP 'Do you think the salaries that footballers earn are ridiculous or deserved?'
Reply 95
Original post by SFeet
I wouldn't necessarily say doctors should earn more than footballers because obviously with the wages being paid out to footballers at the moment, the change is going to be too big, what I'm saying is that doctors should be paid far more than they are currently being paid. And yes I would support a tax hike on the richest (including footballers) because it wouldn't make sense to increase tax on the low earners.


So it's not that you feel footballers are paid too much, it's that you feel doctors aren't paid enough and in order to pay for their increased salary footballers would be among those who'd you'd tax more?
Reply 96
Original post by Gutterflower
I appreciate that but I still don't think they warrant so much money!!


It's basic economics. Specific names get people into stadiums, watching games. Good players who can kick the ball best (I know nothing about football!) lead to more wins. More people pay higher prices to the club to watch the games as they get higher up in the tables.

So the club want's to get that player, because to them he is worth however many millions in ticket sales, merchandise sales and other revenue sources. This means they can afford to pay him millions and still make a profit.

They could still offer him a reasonable wage of 30k a year though! But the next club across would consider he's worth millions and offer him 50k a year. Continue until you reach what the clubs are willing to pay for the millions of increase in revenue - i.e. millions.

This happens with most very popular things and people. Move stars are paid millions to star in movies because people will go watch movies with their favourite stars in and they will earn so very much more (enough to pay for their wage) because of it.

It is a ludicrous wage, but it is a result of what they can earn the person who pays them.
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Reply 97
For a start off, it's ridiculous to suggest that footballers should donate their salaries to charity and poverty stricken countries. The amount of humanitarian aid that has gone into these countries, is probably in the billions. Has is fixed poverty? No. Education would take a step towards 'fixing' poverty, but that's a discussion for another day. Do footballers get paid too much? Is 250k a week too much? Bearing in mind Bale will likely pay in the region of 6 million tax p/a and 300k NI. Would you knock back 250k a week for doing something you love, you've worked hard towards, and dealing with the stress that goes with it? I know I wouldn't.
Reply 98
Original post by SFeet
I actually think most of the players in a football teams squad don't play much e.g. man city, and they get paid millions. And how could you say I'm trolling when I'm just answering the question and defending my answers to the question of the OP 'Do you think the salaries that footballers earn are ridiculous or deserved?'


You can only register 25 players in a squad so most will play regularly. Man City are an exceptional example as they have tried to very quickly build a squad which first was competitive for top 4, then competitive for the title so they went through around four squads in a very short space of time and therefore have surplus players who don't play. In another year or two, these contracts will all have ended and there won't surplus players.

Tbh the doctor argument is very flawed. With footballers there is a degree of skill level which distinguishes the players so one player can be better than the other and therefore there is more demand for the better player hence inflated salaries compared to the rest.

For doctors, it is expected that a minimum level of service will be provided and therefore all doctors get paid around the same band of salary. If you had one (or a select number) of doctors who had significantly and quantifiable skills, they would command higher salaries (see specialists and surgeons for example).
Reply 99
Original post by Gutterflower
Hi!

Sorry if a similar thread has been posted before, admittedly I haven't checked. Before I ask my question, I just want to say that I'm not hating on football or trying to be disrespectful to fans and players!

Do you think the salaries that footballers earn are ridiculous or deserved?


I saw a website yesterday stating how much Gareth Bale will earn at Real Madrid and how much he's earnt since he signed for them, without having played a game yet.

I can't help but feel that with the country's economy in such a diabolical situation, how can we warrant paying people such astronomical amounts of money to run around on a field for 90 minutes, once a week? (Yes, I know they have to train hard, are invaded by the media, donate to charity and work with sponsors etc, but really?!)

Again, I'm not trying to bash football and I know footballers' wages wouldn't solve the economical and financial crisis we're in but when there's so much poverty, problems and failings in the world, why pay such huge fees and wages to footballers?

All opinions greatly appreciated and received!

Gx


In all honesty, I would say yes definitely. Money is in my opinion, eating away at football slowly. I still do and always will love football but I think money has hampered it.

I just actually wrote about it in my blog too (in a way) xD

http://randomfootballoutlooks.wordpress.com/

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