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Overdosing

My friend has just taken over twenty paracetomol... The stress is getting too much for him, he had an argument with his girlfriend and he has an important exam tomorrow, and a family member recently passed away. I threatened to call 999 when he told me, but his parents have now taken him to hospital. He has done this before too, but it had no effect on him.

His girlfriend (who is my best friend) has phoned me hysterically crying, saying that it's her fault... I really don't know what to do. They are both such great friends to me, and I don't know how to help either of them?! Sorry if this doesn't make much sense.. I am a bit in shock at the moment, and waiting for my best friend (his girlfriend) to ring. Any advice of what I can say to either of them??

Thanks, please reply soon xxxxx
I've been quite depressed before now, and contemplated suicide myself. I came to the conclusion that it's too selfish a thing to do, and although now is probably not the best time to tell him, it might be worth mentioning that he is not the only one affected by his actions. I'd also try explaining the enitre situation and all the factors involved to his girlfriend. It's a horrible thing to think you've driven someone to killing themselves, and you have to try and stop her from thinking that.

It's a nasty situation to be in, and one I know all too well, but just be supportive, friendly, and try to stay positive. Good luck. :hugs:
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I've been quite depressed before now, and contemplated suicide myself. I came to the conclusion that it's too selfish a thing to do, and although now is probably not the best time to tell him, it might be worth mentioning that he is not the only one affected by his actions. I'd also try explaining the enitre situation and all the factors involved to his girlfriend. It's a horrible thing to think you've driven someone to killing themselves, and you have to try and stop her from thinking that.

It's a nasty situation to be in, and one I know all too well, but just be supportive, friendly, and try to stay positive. Good luck. :hugs:


:ditto: ...couldn't have put it better myself...
i'm sorry to hear that this has happened especially during the exam times.

firstly...if you have an exam tomorrow then focus on that and don't let this ruin your chances.

be there for your friend when he wants you and make sure he knows he can speak to you.

try and explain to his girlfriend that it's not her fault.

just make sure they both know that you are there and that they are loved.
Reply 4
Get a copy of this book. It's really great, and will help your friend, but will also probably help you understand things.

It's not his girlfriend's fault, so try and get her to see that. It's no ones fault. Maybe she would benefit from some counselling (as would your other friend) to help her see that.
Reply 5
How did his parents find out did he change his mind after or did they guess? Sorry, it must be really hard for you :frown: My advice would be just be there for him.
Reply 6
They found out cos I threatened to phone 999, so he said he would go and tell his mum. Him and his girlfriend are both home now, both very tired. I just feel like I can't help, and I want to :frown: Thanks for all your kind words above though :smile:
Hey

I have been in a number of similar situations before. I know that it is hard on you but you have really got to stick by them both. Reassurance is really important for both friends, she will need to hear that it is all her fault. From what you have said the guy as been through a lot, anybody would get affected badly by that.

I friend of mine lost her mum about 4 years ago but she has locked it up for that long that it has only been recently she has started to show the pain she is suffering inside.

I know that it isn't I nice thing to think about, what could have happened if you had not have found him. But thank god you did. In all the cases I have known people wanting to take their own life is because they are scared and it is their way of crying for help.

It is hard to see it now, but your friend will get through this. It will take time you will need to be strong for them both. But make sure you have a little time to yourself aswell because it does get very emotionally draining.

I hope that your friend is ok, you just need to keep them both positive.

All the best to you all
Reply 8
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is he just making her guilty
The best thing you can do is just act normal with him. Let him know what you're there if he wants to talk, but otherwise just try and be a good friend. I took an overdose a few years back and the thing that helped me after was just having my friends around me and showing that they cared. I never actually talked to anyone about the problem and to this day noone other than myself knows the reasons why. Sometimes you just don't want to talk about the reasons behind it, and people asking you all the time doesn't help. Taking 20 won't do enough damage to kill you, anyone could tell you that (obviously I knoew it COULD but I'm just saying it's not likely) He's crying out for help, not trying to kill himself and he just needs to know that you're there for him. Hope the exams went well and he's getting better.
Reply 11
20 paracetamol sounds much more like a cry for help than a serious attempt, particularly when you take into account that he told you he'd done it. I'm not trying to dismiss what happened, after all a cry for help is still important, and t is important its not ignored.
The biggest thing you can do is be there for him, and for her. And dont forget about yourself, you need to take time out to look after yourself during this stressful time.
That is an awful situation to be in and i can completely relate. I know it must be hard, trying to support his girlfriend who is devastated and feeling guilty as well as supporting your friend who clearly is having some serious problems and issues to deal with. Seeing as you are friends with his girlfriend, i think you two might be of some comfort to each other. You both are trying to deal with someone close to you who is contemplating suicide and making small attempts on several occasions. It must be really hard to see him behave in this way. As well as trying to support his girlfriend, it sounds like he really needs the support of those around him too. He clearly needs help- although his overdoses haven't been large enough to kill him, he is still playing with the idea in his head and that proves he isn't in the right frame of mind. Let him know that you are there if he needs you, but also give him space if that is what he wants. As sad as this is for me to say this, at the end of the day there isn't a massive amount you can do. He needs professional help.

At the same time, i'd also like to say i think you and his girlfriend could do with some external support. Have you thought about talking to a counsellor? You have been given a huge amount to deal with, and it sounds like there are some feelings of guilt lingering around that shouldn't be there. You and his girlfriend have done nothing wrong- he is mentally ill and there is nothing you can or could have done to prevent it happening.

I know just how much of a tough time you are going through- i myself came home one day a few months ago to find my mum had taken a massive, massive overdose and had locked the house from the inside so no one could get in to find her in time. I strangely came home early from college that day, couldn't get in so called the police and thats when she was found. I knew she had been suffering depression but it is still an almighty shock. She is still alive now but in the same mindset and has made other attempts, all of which have now severely damaged her health. Its a really awful situation to be in, but if you ever want someone to talk to who knows what you are going through from a friend/ family POV of a suicidal person then just send a PM (this was the whole reason i decided not to post anonymously)

I hope things work out, and take care of yourself.

Lou
xxx
ive overdosed before.
so know what he must have been feeling.
once your in a situation like that everything that goes wrong just hits you ten times worse than it would affect someone not in ur situation. follow?
things just build up and up until its an easy way out. while your in that situation you dont think about how it is going to effect anyone at all. you just do it. but like someone said, it didnt seem like a serious suicide attempt, more a cry for help.
although what he needs it to know that a lot of people care, and do not abandom him. i had this done to be and it completely broke me. more than anyone can imagine.
just let him no ur there if he does need to talk but just try and be normal
only taking 20 wont have done any damage i dont think. how long was it before he went to hospital?
i took about 52 and went in about 4/5 hours later.
dont think me crazy tho. its just a cry for help. sometimes people around you cant see how things are effecting you until you take drastic action.
sorry to go on.
hope this has helped and he's ok.
let us know? xxx
20 - most probably won't do that much damage. Try to get them to hospital if you can, though, just to be safe. They'll probably just get referred to a counsellor and told to drink lots of water, but take them there anyhow if you can.

*I'm not saying that 20 is safe, by any means. I'm just saying that it could be worse. To be honest, I've taken over 40 before (not reccomended) and I didn't need to go to hospital.
Reply 15
At the risk of bringing up an old thread, my friend who posted here originally told me about this last night. I feel I should post here, basically because, I was the person who overdosed. (check here) People who say that it was a 'cry for help', well you're right, it was. It was a moment of desperation, late at night, where I felt everything was going wrong all at once, I didn't know how to handle it and was acutely aware of the effects of overdosing. I overdosed on Co-Codamol, so basically paracetamol plus codeine (sp?). I'm far from proud of what I done, and I admitted my guilty conscience as soon as I done it, it was a selfish act for me to do. Lots of things have happened since then, I managed to finish my exams, the funeral has been and gone, yet my girlfriend who I so dearly love, has left me. Life at the moment is pretty average for me right now, but anyone else who may be in a similar position to me, must remember to be grateful for the things they do have...house over their head, water, food, sanitation, friends. The last one I feel is particularly important...had I really relied on my friends in the first place, I probably would never have done it. So many of my friends have been unbelivably supportive, including my now ex-girlfriend, who held my hand and comforted me during and after the days of my overdose. To those who are crying out for help, don't remain anonymous, rely on those around you, especially your friends and family, as they're the people who got me through the worst of this, and that's pretty much why I'm posting now.

Thanks.
Sorry that you had to learn the hard way, but thankfully you know this now... I'm so glad you are better!