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Organic food.
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Reply 20
Timeslikethese
Chemical modifications though? This is the point
they have never been shown to be dangerous in any unbiased tests that ive seen.
Reply 21
high priestess fnord
they have never been shown to be dangerous in any unbiased tests that ive seen.
They can't test long term though, only guess. what about very long term? I.e genetic mutations in years to come?
Reply 22
Timeslikethese
They can't test long term though, only guess. what about very long term? I.e genetic mutations in years to come?
yeah we have a population of X-men ahead of us
Reply 23
12
I don't think it's worth the money to buy organic food. There isn't any substanital evidence to show any side-effects of genetically modified food. I'm quite sure that the FDA has looked into this any has found nothing wrong with GM food.
Reply 24
12
yeah we have a population of X-men ahead of us
Reply 25
aiman
I don't think it's worth the money to buy organic food. There isn't any substanital evidence to show any side-effects of genetically modified food. I'm quite sure that the FDA has looked into this any has found nothing wrong with GM food.
The government cannot afford, much like with cigarettes, to close down the gm food industry, they would stand to lose out big time. Because the big companies who churn the stuff out for cheap pay massive amounts to the government in tax etc.
Of course they would let you eat it. Do you think Tony Blair eats that rubbish? does he hell!
Reply 26
:bootyshak
Reply 27
"The UK's leading scientific academy, the Royal Society, also backed the review's findings, adding that it shows attempts by sections of the media to create public anxiety "have been ignoring the scientific evidence".
"No toxic effects"
The review examined 17 areas of concern. Among the key conclusions were that:
β’ there have been "no verifiable untoward toxic or nutritionally deleterious effects" from the worldwide consumption of GM foods by humans and livestock over the last seven years
β’ the most important issue for the current generation of GM crops is their possible effect on UK farmland and wildlife. The panel is awaiting the results of UK farm scale experiments. For now they conclude GM plants are "very unlikely to invade our countryside or become problematic plants"
β’ there will be "very little gene flow" from GM crops like beet and oilseed rape to wild relatives
β’ there is "no compelling evidence" for gene transfer from GM food eaten by humans to bacteria in the gut
β’ gene flow between GM plants and soil bacteria or viruses is "theoretically possible, but extremely unlikely and without precedent"
linky
in short they havnt found any risks to people
"No toxic effects"
The review examined 17 areas of concern. Among the key conclusions were that:
β’ there have been "no verifiable untoward toxic or nutritionally deleterious effects" from the worldwide consumption of GM foods by humans and livestock over the last seven years
β’ the most important issue for the current generation of GM crops is their possible effect on UK farmland and wildlife. The panel is awaiting the results of UK farm scale experiments. For now they conclude GM plants are "very unlikely to invade our countryside or become problematic plants"
β’ there will be "very little gene flow" from GM crops like beet and oilseed rape to wild relatives
β’ there is "no compelling evidence" for gene transfer from GM food eaten by humans to bacteria in the gut
β’ gene flow between GM plants and soil bacteria or viruses is "theoretically possible, but extremely unlikely and without precedent"
linky
in short they havnt found any risks to people
Reply 28
Timeslikethese
They can't test long term though, only guess. what about very long term? I.e genetic mutations in years to come?
the risk is no bigger than it is for natural mutations.
ps lol at the xmen thing
Reply 29
12
One must understand that what genetic modification does to food, more specifically crops, is just artificial selection at an acceleration. Farmers have for centuries selected artificially, so if genetic modification, i.e. artificial selection has side effects, organic food will also probably display these side effects.
Reply 31
erm my link was scientific and unbiased, yours is to a site purely for organic propoganda. if i looked for a pro gm site im sure i could find one.
Reply 32
12
Erm....You do realise that those sites are biased.. they have to sell organic food.
Reply 33
17
Timeslikethese
We cannot say that it makes little difference, the chemicals in all of our food to preserve them is horrific, and we do not know their long term effects. All food used to be organic until mass production of cheap 'food' came into effect some 20 odd years ago.
Do you have a mobile phone?
We don't know the long term effects of using mobile phones and yet still so many people are quite happy to use them.
anyway, I don't think anyone really likes the idea of eating food which has been covered in chemicals just so the capitalist can make extra profit (heh, see what I did there
), but the fact is that until it's shown to actually harm us people will. Some because they cannot afford the ridiculously expensive organic stuff but others because they're pragmatic or something.Reply 34
12
anyway, I don't think anyone really likes the idea of eating food which has been covered in chemicals just so the capitalist can make extra profit (heh, see what I did there ), but the fact is that until it's shown to actually harm us people will. Some because they cannot afford the ridiculously expensive organic stuff but others because they're pragmatic or something.
That was evil!
Reply 35
Thud
anyway, I don't think anyone really likes the idea of eating food which has been covered in chemicals just so the capitalist can make extra profit (heh, see what I did there ), .
), .how about coveringit in chemicals so that the proles have cheaper and higher quality food?
Reply 36
Do you have a mobile phone?
We don't know the long term effects of using mobile phones and yet still so many people are quite happy to use them.
true, but i still put calls on loudspeaker!
Reply 37
10
I think organic and free range meat tastes better. As for the organic thing, I think on the whole we don't have massive understanding of what we're doing, and it's better not to muck around. We have a long history of scientists saying things are OK until it's too late - BSE, cherynobyl milk etc.
At the moment I don't buy organic at uni because of the cost: my mum does for some things at home and she has had an uncanny ability to identify genuine risks (cherynobyl, BSE etc) from rubbish, trumped up ones (the recent vaccine issue). I say uncanny: she's a biochemist and interviews doctors for a living so it probably helps.
Personally, I am much more bothered about Fair Trade and Free Range than organic food.
At the moment I don't buy organic at uni because of the cost: my mum does for some things at home and she has had an uncanny ability to identify genuine risks (cherynobyl, BSE etc) from rubbish, trumped up ones (the recent vaccine issue). I say uncanny: she's a biochemist and interviews doctors for a living so it probably helps.
Personally, I am much more bothered about Fair Trade and Free Range than organic food.
Reply 38
Mercer
I think organic and free range meat tastes better. As for the organic thing, I think on the whole we don't have massive understanding of what we're doing, and it's better not to muck around. We have a long history of scientists saying things are OK until it's too late - BSE, cherynobyl milk etc.
At the moment I don't buy organic at uni because of the cost: my mum does for some things at home and she has had an uncanny ability to identify genuine risks (cherynobyl, BSE etc) from rubbish, trumped up ones (the recent vaccine issue). I say uncanny: she's a biochemist and interviews doctors for a living so it probably helps.
Personally, I am much more bothered about Fair Trade and Free Range than organic food.
At the moment I don't buy organic at uni because of the cost: my mum does for some things at home and she has had an uncanny ability to identify genuine risks (cherynobyl, BSE etc) from rubbish, trumped up ones (the recent vaccine issue). I say uncanny: she's a biochemist and interviews doctors for a living so it probably helps.
Personally, I am much more bothered about Fair Trade and Free Range than organic food.
ditto to the fair trade thing
Reply 39
Timeslikethese
My family purchase as much organic food and drink as they can find, we've realised that we don't want to put chemicals into our bodies anymore and we dont want to be eating gm 'food'.
What does everyone else think?
What does everyone else think?
Haven't read the whole thread so sorry if I repeat.
We should remember that not putting chemicals in our bodies isn't the only reason to buy organic food. By not killing off all the insects which feed on crops we are leaving food for birds and other wildlife living in our countryside. It's important to see the bigger picture and realise that if we don't make an effort to preserve our wildlife then we won't have any. Organic farming helps to preserve our countryside, nature takes care of itself if you don't interfer with it. This is why the hunting ban is a joke, we probably kill more foxes by depriving them of foods lower down the food chain than we do hunting them (obviously it was about cruelty as well but I think taking away something's food source is fairly cruel too).
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