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Oh dear i think i got caught speeding

I was driving back from the beach the other day with a group of friends and we were late for a lesson so werent hanging around. however we wernt going that fast, i think it was around 38-40mph in a 30 zone. In my opinion this isnt that bad and 90% of drivers for 40 in a 30.

Anyway i saw this van with a speed camera sign on the back of it and am fairly sure its a camera. I was driving towards it. The things i want to know are, which side of the road do they moniter? and what is the time limit from them possibly catching me to them telling me?

Im driving to london soon and would be a lot more careful if i have 3 points.

Thanks...oh and i know that i shouldnt have been speeding and the easiest way to not get caught is to not speed so i dont need you all saying that. 40mph in a 30mph zone really isnt that bad though.

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Reply 1
it'l take around 2-3 weeks to come through.
they take traffic coming towards them so your side.
flyboy123
40mph in a 30mph zone really isnt that bad though.

Yeah except it kinda is...

It's about 10-14 working days before you'll know.

I'm a bit paranoid at the minute too - I was on the M8 at night and there were so many misleading speed limit signs - some lanes had "20" above them, some had "50" and some had "30". So I thought it best to ignore them all and do 40. Don't think it'll have mattered as everyone else was doing 70 but you never know.

What I want to know is how they know it's you driving the car - 3 people are insured to drive the car I drive so how do they know who's driving?
Reply 3
quadruple_twist
What I want to know is how they know it's you driving the car - 3 people are insured to drive the car I drive so how do they know who's driving?

i think they send it to the main driver (who the car belongs to) and whoever was driving just sends their license back insted of the other person
Reply 4
I've heard that they must contact you within 14 days, and if they don't then you don't have to pay the fine. But the thing is, you could just pretent that you don't receive the first letter (quite probable with the royal mail), and then the reminder is sent by recorded delivery, but that will be after 14 days anyway.
Thats what I've been told, whether or not its true I have no idea. Just sounds a bit too easy to get out of surely?
Reply 5
quadruple_twist
What I want to know is how they know it's you driving the car - 3 people are insured to drive the car I drive so how do they know who's driving?


They don't. The registered owner of the car is first requested under the provisions of the Road Traffic Act to inform them who was driving at the time. If they refuse, then it is quite within the power of the police to refer it to the prosecuting authorities and you'll be charged with failing to provide the said information, which will involve district court, fines and possibly even imprisonment.
Reply 6
quadruple_twist
Yeah except it kinda is...

It's about 10-14 working days before you'll know.

I'm a bit paranoid at the minute too - I was on the M8 at night and there were so many misleading speed limit signs - some lanes had "20" above them, some had "50" and some had "30". So I thought it best to ignore them all and do 40. Don't think it'll have mattered as everyone else was doing 70 but you never know.

What I want to know is how they know it's you driving the car - 3 people are insured to drive the car I drive so how do they know who's driving?


The flashing ones on gantry, on the motorway are advisory unless they have a red ring around them (like on the M25).

They are designed to pre-warn you off traffic jams ahead and how bad they are. Doing 40mph when everyone else is doing 70mph is damn right dangerous.
Reply 7
flyboy123
In my opinion this isnt that bad and 90% of drivers for 40 in a 30. .


Actually I will think you will find most people don't, myself included. Speeding in residential areas is just irresponsible.

I am afraid you will more than likely get something through the post soom. Just let it be a lesson to you. I know I would rather be late for an appointment than run someone down from speeding.
Reply 8
LibertineNorth
They don't. The registered owner of the car is first requested under the provisions of the Road Traffic Act to inform them who was driving at the time. If they refuse, then it is quite within the power of the police to refer it to the prosecuting authorities and you'll be charged with failing to provide the said information, which will involve district court, fines and possibly even imprisonment.


This is what really happens as my dad said he wasn't driving (when he was) and as you say he got done for not providing the information, however they could not prove that he was speeding (because they did him on the other carriageway to which they were facing with their laser guns, making it inaccurate) so he was let of that charge. He then employed a specialist lawyer who dealt with this who got him of the aforementioned charge and got the CPS to pay damages and legal fees.

Challenge the thing and seek legal advice.

Graham
Reply 9
Pookie
Actually I will think you will find most people don't, myself included. Speeding in residential areas is just irresponsible. I know I would rather be late for an appointment than run someone down from speeding.


Oh get off your high horse. If traffic is flowing freely (ie theyre going as fast as they want not being held up by anything) then the general flow of traffic will be going between 35-40mph in a 30 zone. Dont delude yourself that it isnt.

Im fairly sure ill get criticised for this but its true. You can do the whole "im perfect and drive exactly to the letter of the law, in fact i sometimes drive at only 78.6% of the speed limit as i find it is safer and more socially responsible" but if you were really that concerned about being respnsible you wouldnt be driving a car and polluting the atmosphere.

Most people drive above the limit and most of those that dont are retired.

Oh well there goes any chance of keeping positive rep but it had to be said
Reply 10
^ Your missing the point. I'm an advocate of traffic flow and going the speed according to the conditions and traffic congestion, but in a residential built up area, doing 40mph in a 30mph is foolish. I have no qualms of doing 100mph on a motorway, but kids are not really likely to be stepping out onto the road.

You started this thread by being defensive and not admitting to liability. By this measure in itself, you are guilty as hell and you deserve to be flashed and reprimanded. I understand that some people just accidentally get caught in the moment, but the idea is one of idiocy and general regret. You on the other hand are doing the exact opposite. There you go, that needed to be said :smile:

Chances of you getting done by a mobile speed van are high. If it was a standard GATSO, then you had a big chance of receiving no ticket.
Reply 11
If you hit someone going 40 your about twice as likely to kill them than if you were going 30... or something like that. The chances of survival fall exponentially.

40 in a 30 is much worse than doing 80 in a 70.

You obviously think you are right and intend to drive 35-40 in a 30 again, so i hope you get the ticket you deserve.
Zakatu, totally agree with you there! Its completely irrisponsible doing 40 in a 30, and so what if theres a driver up your ar*e, I stick to the 30 limit because its there for a reason.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy driving fast, in fact I see driving fast as a hobbie, which is why I take it to a race track e.g. Nurburgring where its designed for people to drive cars fast, not on residential roads where you could end up ruining so many peoples lives, not to mention the guilt you'll have to live with.
Reply 13
you think its ok to do 100mph on a motorway?!?!?! I'd do up to 80 on a motorway but more is kinda silly really. Unless you have a high performance car (looking at your profile you dont) then you will not be in complete control and i doubt the brakes wouuld be able to cope with hard braking at that speed. A crash on the motorway from doing 100mph could cause lots of deaeths from a pileup and that would be your fault. However if someone jumps infront of the car when you are in control at 40mph it may cause 1 fatality but would not be the drivers fault.

Most of the 30 limits that i drive on are in areas where there are very very few "kids" to step out into the road and most of the time that there are "kids" likely to step out into the road, the traffic travels much slower as there are loads of people being picked up from school. I dont mean to sound harsh but if you have children who are likely to jump into the road without looking they shouldnt be allowed to walk home unsupervised.

Anyway in the instance when i may have got caught, it was 2oclock on a weekday (no "kids" about then) in a completly deeserted area with no pedestrians for miles. Wide road and good conditions.
Reply 14
your being to defensive.... jus shut up and take the points!!

you speed, you take the risk, you get caught and take the points, i speed most of the time, as per conditions, and i got a clean licence (and i been driving 4 years! you 17 so your only allowed to get 6 points and your already caught!!!), because firstly i dont take the p**s, then moan when you get caught, secondly i do all of my really fast driving on the track!!

just take ya points and ya fine and stop acting like a 2 year old!!!
Reply 15
*SCRREEECHHHH* *BANG* *CRASH*

At 40pmh, there's around an 80% chance I'll die.
At 30mph, there's around an 80% chance I'll live.

*GASP*

(If I look where I'm DAMN WELL GOING, there's a 100% chance I'll live. But that is beside the point.)
Reply 16
Oh, and by the way, if the

flyboy123
traffic is flowing freely (ie theyre going as fast as they want not being held up by anything) then the general flow of traffic will be going between 35-40mph in a 30 zone


, then surely every single person on that road would have been busted for speeding if you were too?
dh00001
it'l take around 2-3 weeks to come through.
they take traffic coming towards them so your side.



Sorry. incorrect.

You have to recieve the NIP (notice of intended prosecution) within 14 days. Otherwise it is invalid.

:smile: Handy loophole that.
Reply 18
30 limits are there for a reason - residential area, kids around etc.

The 70 limit on a motorway is also there for a reason, but that's just to make money. Motorways should be de retricted like the autobahns in Germany.
30 zones are not allways there for a good reason. There is some unwritten assumption that because a road is in an urban area the speed limit has to be 30. For example, in Worcester, the City Walls Road has pedestrian overpasses and the limit is 30 (with speed cameras). How does that make sense?

My point is is that there is no pragmatic speed limits in this country. Roads are classified and the limits are set. You can drive into villages, villages with schools and shops in Worcestershire and the limit is .... NSL. Great.