Bring back the cane?

NO! What we need is tranqs... lol.

No i dont bellieve that violence would make a kid respond more or less, its society hun.

No, its too severe a physical punishment (not that it would be brought back anyway...)

A better solution would be to give children less right to think they can behave however they like and get away with it while teachers fear legal action if they react. But there's a fine line between giving teachers more power and opening it up for abuse.

One of the channell islands still has the cane and they have almost zero street crime. Im not fantasticly into the idea of using pain as a method of teaching but it seems to work there, likes.

And I understand that until fairly recently public birching was still used on the Isle of Mann.

birching? (Apologies for my ignorance!!)

Basically "caning" but with a birch cane rather than a cane cane (if that makes any sense?!) Birch hurts more apparently.

They don't seem to be learning about respect or morals and how to treat other people. Do you think using a punishment like the cane would work?

And how exactly would beating them teach them this?

The arguments against the cane from the lefties is that it is barbaric and that there are other methods of disciplining kids. OK then, tell me one. Ever since kids have stopped being filled in discipline has hit rock bottom and started digging. Kids are running wild, getting upto all sorts, no respect at all. This is because adults are not controlling them, not dominating them when they grow up. In the future, they will grow up thinking they can behave like this, and society will suffer.
When kids are bad, they need filing in! It's not about disciplining with pain, it's the physcological effect of teaching kids that they are juts kids, there is nothing that adults can't do to them, where as today you have to be mega careful what you do, and the kids know exactly what u can and can't do to them. When kids are bad, a little smack, them draw a line under it. For kids to respect the system, the need to know they are being totally dominated by it.

At the end of the day, the bottom line is this, When kids got a kicking, discipline was good, kids were good, society was good.
These days, kids can't be shouted at even, the scum bag kids are rewarded for being scum bags, they are paid money to go to these 'springboard' schools, they are nasty foul mouthed ill disciplined in-bred mutants. How do the lefties explain this? They say that hitting kids is wrong, but the facts are there, how do you square them away?

yeah the thing is they weren't good cus they want to be, because they were scared. is that a good basis for better behaviour/morality? surely we should try and implement a better method of improving behaviour rather than just giving them beatings everytime they step out of line?