Euthyphro dilemma: Does God command things because they are intrinsically good or....

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Henry_Tudor
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Augustinian is more inline with the Genesis accounts I feel Ireanaean's soul making theodicy and it makes Jesus less of the savoir that he is.
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Augustinian is more inline with the Genesis accounts I feel Ireanaean's soul making theodicy and it makes Jesus less of the savoir that he is.
I see. That would actually be another reason I prefer the Irenaean Theodicy as it removes the need for Jesus as a saviour dying for our sins. The whole process of 'dying for our sins' is something I find difficult to understand or rationalise.
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I see. That would actually be another reason I prefer the Irenaean Theodicy as it removes the need for Jesus as a saviour dying for our sins. The whole process of 'dying for our sins' is something I find difficult to understand or rationalise.
It does seem odd at first, but if you try and go a whole 24hrs with out doing/thinking/saying something bad then you will realise tha's it's nearly impossible, and if you believe the claims of JC that he was truely who he said he was then you do need someone to take the burden of sin off you. But what puzzles me is why does the Father love humanity so much after we rebelled against him that he felt he needed to send his son to died for us?
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It does seem strange that God would want people to suffer from other peoples wrong doings thus questioning his all-goodness however some people say that we are born sinners because of Adam & Eve. But the Augustine Theodicy is not totally water tight.

See here for Theodcies and Critiques.
http://instruct.westvalley.edu/lafav...s_tutor2u.html
That's true, I've studies both the theodicy and the Euthyphro dilemma last year and there are plenty of arguments against them. Do you study philosophy?
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That's true, I've studies both the theodicy and the Euthyphro dilemma last year and there are plenty of arguments against them. Do you study philosophy?

No but I did AS RS which was composed of Ethics & Philosophy of Religion, but sadly I dropped it for A2, what about you?
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No but I did AS RS which was composed of Ethics & Philosophy of Religion, but sadly I dropped it for A2, what about you?
How come you dropped it? Yes I'm doing A2 now and I've also applied for French & Philosophy at uni.
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Nice!!

I dropped it because I got AABB in AS and it was my lowest B out of RS and History. Also History is 40% coursework this year so I knew I could bank some marks and not let it come down to big exams in the end. Also History is taught much better than RS at my school.

But I am still interested in Philosophy and Ethics.
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I know this is an old thread but take a look at this video with William Lane Craig talking about the Euthyphro dilemma and this third option!




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgGB4Oxs5VU
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Yes I was about to say just as the above poster has said. It is no longer as dilemma once the third option is available.
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