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    Hey there

    I am planning on moving from the US to the UK in a bit. From what I have read I am going to be restricted on a motorbike license to under 125cc and/or 33bhp till I am 21. It is my dream though, that by the time I am 21 that I can own a Triumph Bonneville. Would insurance be astronomical on a bike like that when I am 21?
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    Depends on the age of the bike, where its kept, whether insurance is third part, TPFT, of fully comp.

    How old are you? at 17 you can do the restricted license, which restricts you to 33bph for 2 years, meaning you can get an unrestricted bik at 19.

    as a girl on a 8 yo 650cc sports bike and 3 years no claims i pay £400, my ex paid £1000 for a brand new 600cc fully comp, although had we not shopped it would have been £2000.

    Go on some price comparision websites, find a post code of the area your thinking of heading, and get some quotes.
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    :woo: :woo: :woo: :woo:

    Pics are up from Rockingham, this is one of my favs.


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    the cat and fiddle, A537, which used to be the most amazing road has officially been ruined with rear facing, bike catching average speed cameras.

    went up there this morning to see how bad it really is... wish i hadn't, 50mph is like crawling, feel sorry for the pub which is bound to be affected by the new cameras.

    with increasing talk of the blanket 100bhp EU restriction, makes you wonder what the future holds for biking. booooo to the UK
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    Hey guys, looking for some advice, would be grateful for any help.

    Next year I start a paramedic course in liverpool, which will involve me commuting from the wirral, through the mersey tunnel (£1.20 each way for cars, free for motorcycles) to university and also to various placements around merseyside and cheshire.

    I'm 21 with a full car licence for 3 years, did my cbt in may 09.

    My question is, should I buy a car or a motorcycle. Both have pros and cons.

    Motorcycle = Yamaha YBR offer with free insurance for the year, and all the gear

    + High MPG
    + No tunnel fee
    + New motorcycle :. (hopefully) won't break down
    + 2 Year Warranty
    + Cheap initial cost
    + Ability to filter --> Seeing as when I went for my interview for my course I was stuck in traffic for an hour and so was late to the interview! Seeing all those motorcycles filtering through made me green with envy!

    - COLD in winter - heated clothing?
    - Can't drive when it is frosty, considering 7am shift starts
    - Can't drive on motorways until I get a full licence
    - Vulnerable road user - I've come to terms with this already

    Car = who knows, got £2300 to spend, parents said they would pay for insurance

    + Can drive on motorways
    + Can take passengers
    + Safer in icy conditions
    + Heater in car

    - Lower MPG
    - Have to pay for tunnel fee
    - Considerably less awesome than a motorcycle
    - Will probably be an older car :. MOT and subsequent issues and costs


    I've probably left some bits and bobs out, but I think thats the most of it. Any advice would be gratefully recieved
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    What would you do when it snows? Can you work for summer, but a cheap (£1200) car and have both....... Its easily possible to earn that sort of money over the hols.

    A car is infinitely more practical for everyday use, carrying books and what have you is a lot easier. Bikes arnt very fun when it rains, is cold, is snowing, you dont feel great or whatever. However, when the traffic is bad and the weather is good they are awesome.
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    (Original post by Riderz)
    However, when the traffic is bad and the weather is good they are awesome.
    not at the same time though, getting stuck filtering on a lovley day is not awesome!

    im not sure what id do in your position, is getting a bus in during the snowey weather an option?
    dont forget that even in the snow, you can ride, just try to avoid un gritted roads, and coat your bike in ACF-50
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    (Original post by laser3000)

    - COLD in winter - heated clothing?
    - Can't drive when it is frosty, considering 7am shift starts
    - Can't drive on motorways until I get a full licence
    - Vulnerable road user - I've come to terms with this already
    Heated grips and clothing keep you warm.
    I ride in frost, but not snow
    Its all very well getting a brand new bike with free insurance for the first year, but what about the following year.
    You can carry a fair bit on a bike (tent, sleeping bagsx2, clothes for 10 daysx2, cooking utensils) using cargo nets, a top box, panniers, but these are an additional cost.

    Have you factored glove (£30), jacket (£60), helmet (£50), waterproof trousers for all year riding (£40). AND somewhere to store all the gear once you arrive at work?

    I cycle in the snow or walk, as i don't drive, but love having the motorbike.
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    Hi there!

    I just did my CBT (today, in fact!) and was wondering what the best thing to do next is.

    I could either go straight onto additional lessons/training and attempt to get my license before I go to Uni in October and then worry about getting a bike later, or I could save up over the summer (planning on getting a summer job) and get a 125cc bike to practice on before moving onto additional training, which I could do over time while at uni.

    The main thing I'm thinking about is I'm probably not going to be able to keep my bike anywhere near me during my first year of uni (possibly the others too, but would strive to make sure this is an option when I look for accomodation in subsequent years) as I'm staying in uni halls with what I understand to have no parking (car or motorbike) for students. To me this means I'd effectively be wasting a year of CBT-Time (as I know it runs out after 2 years) that I could be spending getting lessons. Pros of getting my own bike would mean when I DID come to do my test, I could do it on a familiar bike. Cons include likely not using it at all for a year, then (probably) having to retake CBT before moving on to lessons.

    Thoughts and any help much appreciated!

    P.S. Sorry for all the brackets, just omit them if it's too nasty to read :woo:
    P.P.S. I'm 18, and realise the license that I would get would be restricted (for 2 years as I understand, although maybe until I'm 21? Heard different things from different sources)
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    (Original post by D3bug)
    Hi there!

    I just did my CBT (today, in fact!) and was wondering what the best thing to do next is.

    I could either go straight onto additional lessons/training and attempt to get my license before I go to Uni in October and then worry about getting a bike later, or I could save up over the summer (planning on getting a summer job) and get a 125cc bike to practice on before moving onto additional training, which I could do over time while at uni.

    The main thing I'm thinking about is I'm probably not going to be able to keep my bike anywhere near me during my first year of uni Ask the unis this, i asked my top choice and they said you're not allowed car parking on campus first year but there are dedicated bike parking areas for free (possibly the others too, but would strive to make sure this is an option when I look for accomodation in subsequent years) as I'm staying in uni halls with what I understand to have no parking (car or motorbike) for students.

    To me this means I'd effectively be wasting a year of CBT-Time (as I know it runs out after 2 years) that I could be spending getting lessons. Pros of getting my own bike would mean when I DID come to do my test, I could do it on a familiar bike. Cons include likely not using it at all for a year, then (probably) having to retake CBT before moving on to lessons.

    Thoughts and any help much appreciated!

    P.S. Sorry for all the brackets, just omit them if it's too nasty to read :woo:
    P.P.S. I'm 18, and realise the license that I would get would be restricted (for 2 years as I understand, although maybe until I'm 21? Heard different things from different sources)Yes, if you do your bike test aged 18 you'll be restricted to 33bhpfor 2 years, If you are 21+ you can do the "Direct Access" test to get direct access to higher powered bikes. TBH, 33bhp is MORE than enough for an 18 yr old on a motorbike and you can easily get the restrictor kits for 500/600cc bikes.

    AS well as those random bold bits i'd say to get your test over and done with sooner rather than later. The quicker you pass your test the quicker you can get a real bike and start counting down the days unitl you can remove the 33bhp limiters.
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    (Original post by MHorman)
    AS well as those random bold bits i'd say to get your test over and done with sooner rather than later. The quicker you pass your test the quicker you can get a real bike and start counting down the days unitl you can remove the 33bhp limiters.
    Thanks for the reply, I actually already knew about the limiter and all that, I was just confused as to when the restriction is lifted. Is it after 2 years regardless or is it after two years and when you're 21 (whichever comes latest)?

    What would your opinion be? It seems from your post you're leaning towards taking lessons first, then getting a bigger bike. (I actually don't want anything near 500cc for my first bike but I am aware of the limiters you can get for them to restrict the power. 125cc seemed fine today when I was doing my CBT but lacked the power to go above ~50mph with a severe headwind)

    I'm not into going crazy boy-racer mode or anything as I'm pretty sensible really :]
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    (Original post by D3bug)
    Thanks for the reply, I actually already knew about the limiter and all that, I was just confused as to when the restriction is lifted. Is it after 2 years regardless or is it after two years and when you're 21 (whichever comes latest)?It's just after 2 years, for example, i will be 19 when my restriction gets lifted and i get UNLIMITED POWER!:woo: :woo: :eek3: :eek3: :eek3: :eek3:

    What would your opinion be? It seems from your post you're leaning towards taking lessons first, then getting a bigger bike. (I actually don't want anything near 500cc for my first bike but I am aware of the limiters you can get for them to restrict the power. 125cc seemed fine today when I was doing my CBT but lacked the power to go above ~50mph with a severe headwind)I say get lessons now and pass test then no worries about stuff running out etc. The bike you want depends on where you'll be riding, if it's ALL city riding then the 125 will be lighter/better on fuel. If it'll involve riding between cities and maybe on a motorway to get between uni/home then i strongly recommend a restrcited 500, a restricted 500 can easily cruise at ~100mph on a british motorway... apparently....

    I'm not into going crazy boy-racer mode or anything as I'm pretty sensible really :]
    Hope that helps.
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    (Original post by MHorman)
    Hope that helps.
    It does a ton, thanks! Will rep if I can work out how! :o:
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    (Original post by D3bug)
    It does a ton, thanks! Will rep if I can work out how! :o:

    It's OK, yay, more little green blobs:woo:

    I went for a restricted Fazer 600(pics in sig) because i use mine for a 12 mile journey to part-time job all the time and occasionally the 50 mile round trip to college and will be using to get back and forth from uni throughout the year, returning for birthdays/holidays.

    Lovely bike, only set be back £1,000.:cool:
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    (Original post by MHorman)
    It's OK, yay, more little green blobs:woo:

    I went for a restricted Fazer 600(pics in sig) because i use mine for a 12 mile journey to part-time job all the time and occasionally the 50 mile round trip to college and will be using to get back and forth from uni throughout the year, returning for birthdays/holidays.

    Lovely bike, only set be back £1,000.:cool:
    If I get into Warwick, I'll be using it in the 2nd - 4th years for leamington - uni and back if they allow parking. I've been told it's 30-45mins on a bus and I'll be using it to get home over holidays

    I've seen nothing as good as your bike for £1k :[
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    (Original post by D3bug)
    If I get into Warwick, I'll be using it in the 2nd - 4th years for leamington - uni and back if they allow parking. I've been told it's 30-45mins on a bus and I'll be using it to get home over holidays

    I've seen nothing as good as your bike for £1k :[
    WEll, tbh my bike was bought off my brother.

    We got the price by using the Parkers price guide for good condiiton private sale.

    I just had a quick look on ebay and they're going for crazy prices.

    One thing, is recently a lot of european people have been buying english bikes because of the great £/Euro rate for them, they can make Massive profits by reselling them back in europe.
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    (Original post by D3bug)
    Hi there!

    I just did my CBT (today, in fact!) and was wondering what the best thing to do next is.

    I could either go straight onto additional lessons/training and attempt to get my license before I go to Uni in October and then worry about getting a bike later, or I could save up over the summer (planning on getting a summer job) and get a 125cc bike to practice on before moving onto additional training, which I could do over time while at uni.

    The main thing I'm thinking about is I'm probably not going to be able to keep my bike anywhere near me during my first year of uni (possibly the others too, but would strive to make sure this is an option when I look for accomodation in subsequent years) as I'm staying in uni halls with what I understand to have no parking (car or motorbike) for students. To me this means I'd effectively be wasting a year of CBT-Time (as I know it runs out after 2 years) that I could be spending getting lessons. Pros of getting my own bike would mean when I DID come to do my test, I could do it on a familiar bike. Cons include likely not using it at all for a year, then (probably) having to retake CBT before moving on to lessons.

    Thoughts and any help much appreciated!

    P.S. Sorry for all the brackets, just omit them if it's too nasty to read :woo:
    P.P.S. I'm 18, and realise the license that I would get would be restricted (for 2 years as I understand, although maybe until I'm 21? Heard different things from different sources)
    personally, id get a 125 for a year, so that you can have your fist off, you can get used to not peddling, and avoiding man-hole covers/white lines, while its all cheap and not so dangerous.
    for this 125 i wouldn't spend more then a few hundred pounds on, and by doing the maintenance yourself you get the practice in before you get a more complex bigger bike (and its cheaper the a garage)
    then, after 6-9 months do your test and get a bigger bike (it also means you'll be testing in the winter when its cheaper).
    there must be somewhere you can lock you bike, like a spare bit of pavement.

    thats what ive done, and am now looking to do my test in June, after exams, then job, and in a while get a cheap bigger bike.
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    (Original post by D3bug)
    ....
    I did my test straight away at 18 and got a 400. I didn't keep the bike at un for the first year as my ex was using it to visit me, but i would have been allowed to keep it on campus (essex). Bike parking is free and there are lods of spaces bythe accommadation. Plus its a years no-claims

    The restriction is for 2 years, then automatically comes off.

    If you want the bike for motorbways and A rods, i would suggest at least a 400cc bike, just so you can get to speed.

    For buying a bike, your loking a the most expensive time now, as eeryones starting to think of their summer ride, the cheapest time to buy is winter when people dont want to ride.
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    (Original post by D3bug)
    If I get into Warwick, I'll be using it in the 2nd - 4th years for leamington - uni and back if they allow parking. I've been told it's 30-45mins on a bus and I'll be using it to get home over holidays

    I've seen nothing as good as your bike for £1k :[
    Warwick has quite a bit of free bike parking. Its not next to halls, although there are push bike parks outside halls and nothing to stop you putting the bike there. Not sure what hall wardens would say, but get a cool warden and you'll be fine. Otherwise there is maybe a 5 min walk to the bike parks. Dont worry about security, there has been a bike there for 3 years, never used, not locked and its never been nicked.

    Warwick uni - leam can be done in 11 minuets on a bike..... mine's unrestricted though and I think I was using a few more than 33 horses to do that time...... :ninja:
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    (Original post by Bathwiggle)
    For buying a bike, your loking a the most expensive time now, as eeryones starting to think of their summer ride, the cheapest time to buy is winter when people dont want to ride.
    That's useful information that I hadn't thought about at all, thanks! I would probably be looking to buy at the end of the summer though, after I'd saved up the money :P

    (Original post by Bathwiggle)
    Plus its a years no-claims
    Seems like food for thought these days, I know there are specialised motorbike insurers but I don't know who they are. What sort of price would I be looking at for a cheap 125cc bike?

    (Original post by Boristhethird)
    by doing the maintenance yourself you get the practice in before you get a more complex bigger bike (and its cheaper the a garage).
    Nice point, so much to think about! xD

    (Original post by Riderz)
    Warwick has quite a bit of free bike parking.
    Really helpful info, I hate Warwick's website with a passion and can't use it to find any useful information about anything! I only recently found the accomodation application page which states that application forms would be available on the site "From early 2010". Surely that has passed now hasn't it? I want to get everything sorted for uni so I can concentrate on exams!:mad: </rant>

    (Original post by Riderz)
    Warwick uni - leam can be done in 11 minuets on a bike..... mine's unrestricted though and I think I was using a few more than 33 horses to do that time...... :ninja:
    :eek: That's naughty! :rolleyes:
 
 
 
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