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Girls - muscly bod vs. toned vs. normal

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Reply 60

more adventurous
Obviously, you know more about girls' preferences than girls themselves. Why don't you tell us more about our preferences? How about telling us our favourite food, while you're at it?

You prefer tall, skinny, tanned, bleached blonde chicks with huge, silicone boobs. If you say otherwise, you're obviously lying. :rolleyes:


I am not saying that I can identify a physically ideal person, as that would be ridiculous. What I am saying throughout this thread is that girls will 'generally' like a man who has a body that is in good shape (ie toned/muscular) compared to an average guy with a chubby stomach. I just find it amusing when I saw girls coming onto this thread talking about how they like average guys. But attraction is complex and a whole host of other factors play a major part, including personality and intelligence. So an average guy with a good personality will be as attractive as a good-looking guy with a horrible personality.

As I said it is the same as when girls say they like so-called 'nice guys' when asked when in reality they hate them. Girls never tell the truth about what they like. It is one of the reasons why so many men are unsuccessful with women- because they listen to what women say about what they like.

Reply 61

Amnesia
I am not saying that I can identify a physically ideal person, as that would be ridiculous. What I am saying throughout this thread is that girls will 'generally' like a man who has a body that is in good shape (ie toned/muscular) compared to an average guy with a chubby stomach. I just find it amusing when I saw girls coming onto this thread talking about how they like average guys. But attraction is complex and a whole host of other factors play a major part, including personality and intelligence. So an average guy with a good personality will be as attractive as a good-looking guy with a horrible personality.

As I said it is the same as when girls say they like so-called 'nice guys' when asked when in reality they hate them. Girls never tell the truth about what they like. It is one of the reasons why so many men are unsuccessful with women- because they listen to what women say about what they like.


So you can express a preference (brunettes) that differs from the stereotype, and that's just fine. But if a girl does exactly the same thing, she's lying?

Do you really expect anyone to believe you're not sexist?

Reply 62

Amnesia
As I said it is the same as when girls say they like so-called 'nice guys' when asked when in reality they hate them. Girls never tell the truth about what they like.


BS ive never been out with a guy who wasnt "nice" and i know loads of "nice" guys who have gfs and are very successful with women. the guys who go on about women not liking nice guys are usualy the one who cant get a gf because theyre ******s.

Reply 63

high priestess fnord
BS ive never been out with a guy who wasnt "nice" and i know loads of "nice" guys who have gfs and are very successful with women. the guys who go on about women not liking nice guys are usualy the one who cant get a gf because theyre ******s.


Women just don't like "nice guys" in quotes. "Nice guys" in quotes whine about how women are all such bitches whenever one of them isn't attracted to them, and are generally quite misogynistic.

Everyone likes nice guys.

Reply 64

more adventurous
So you can express a preference (brunettes) that differs from the stereotype, and that's just fine. But if a girl does exactly the same thing, she's lying?

Do you really expect anyone to believe you're not sexist?


That is becasue I don't believe that one hair colour is intrinsically better than the other. I do believe that a toned/muscular body is intrinsically better than an average body. In the same sense I would prefer a women who was not average and chuby compared to a women who kept herself in relatively decent shape. I don't see what is sexist or controversial about what I am saying.

high priestess fnord
BS ive never been out with a guy who wasnt "nice" and i know loads of "nice" guys who have gfs and are very successful with women. the guys who go on about women not liking nice guys are usualy the one who cant get a gf because theyre ******s.


When I said nice guy I put the word in quotation marks for a reason. A 'nice guy' is a man who sucks up to women, buys them gifts, always trys to impress them and is more worried about what she thinks of him than what he thinks of her. Unfortunately, a large proportion of the male population (including a number of my friends) act like this because women say they want men like this, when in reality they don't.

more advenurous
Women just don't like "nice guys" in quotes. "Nice guys" in quotes whine about how women are all such bitches whenever one of them isn't attracted to them, and are generally quite misogynistic.


Totally incorrect. A 'nice guy' in quotes are men who are not misogynist at all. They believe that the best way to get a women to like them is to be nice and suck-up to women. They think that by expressing their feelings to women they can get women to be attracted to them. For the record I am just about as far as you can get from a traditional nice guy, although I am not a misogynist or sexist.

Reply 65

Slim and toned. Average body is fine also. I'm not into lots of muscle, I find it unattractive. Just a healthy, slim and nicely toned body is perfect.

Reply 66

Amnesia
When I said nice guy I put the word in quotation marks for a reason. A 'nice guy' is a man who sucks up to women, buys them gifts, always trys to impress them and is more worried about what she thinks of him than what he thinks of her.


your right ive never seen a girl go for that kind of gut. there again ive never heard one say she likes them either. who ever said they wanted slimey suck ups was having you on sweetie. or just playing with you to see how far you would go.

Reply 67

high priestess fnord
your right ive never seen a girl go for that kind of gut. there again ive never heard one say she likes them either. who ever said they wanted slimey suck ups was having you on sweetie. or just playing with you to see how far you would go.


I was lucky in the sense that I worked out what women wanted years ago. Unfortunately, I can't say the same for a lot of the guys around me. They listen to women saying they like nice, emotional guys etc and misinterpret this completely. Some of the things I have seen some of my friends do around women actually make me cringe.

Reply 68

Amnesia
I was lucky in the sense that I worked out what women wanted years ago.


really 0_o because you sound clueless to me

Reply 69

That is becasue I don't believe that one hair colour is intrinsically better than the other. I do believe that a toned/muscular body is intrinsically better than an average body. In the same sense I would prefer a women who was not average and chuby compared to a women who kept herself in relatively decent shape. I don't see what is sexist or controversial about what I am saying.


But it's your opinion that a toned body is intrinsically better than an average body. Other people believe the opposite, and that's just as valid of an opinion as yours. The fact that some girls' preferences don't align with what you view as an intrinsically better body doesn't mean they're liars.

Reply 70

Toned. :smile:

Cristiano Ronaldo. :love: Need I say more?

Reply 71

high priestess fnord
really 0_o because you sound clueless to me


Seeing as you have probably never attracted or tried to pull a girl in your life and I have numerous times, I think I will stick to my own philosophy and principles thank you.

more adventurous
But it's your opinion that a toned body is intrinsically better than an average body. Other people believe the opposite, and that's just as valid of an opinion as yours. The fact that some girls' preferences don't align with what you view as an intrinsically better body doesn't mean they're liars.


The difference is that the people who believe the opposite to me are girls and unlike me they have never had to attract women. My ideas are based on my experiences and the what I have seen around me. I am a realist.

Reply 72

Amnesia
Seeing as you have probably never attracted or tried to pull a girl in your life and I have numerous times, I think I will stick to my own philosophy and principles thank you.



The difference is that the people who believe the opposite to me are girls and unlike me they have never had to attract women. My ideas are based on my experiences and the what I have seen around me. I am a realist.


You mean, the people who believe the opposite from you about girls' preferences are girls themselves, and therefore they are less qualified to know what their preferences are than you are? I wish you would listen to yourself, you have no idea how hilarious this is to everyone else.

Reply 73

Amnesia
Seeing as you have probably never attracted or tried to pull a girl in your life and I have numerous times, I think I will stick to my own philosophy and principles thank you.

The difference is that the people who believe the opposite to me are girls and unlike me they have never had to attract women. My ideas are based on my experiences and the what I have seen around me. I am a realist.


1) if i wanted a gf im sure i could get one. im virtually fighting women off. and on one occasion almost literally. apparently im pretty :rolleyes:

2) most girls have more experience of what girls do in various situations. you only have your own personal experience. girls have their own experience and their friends because they talk about these things more (generalisation alert)

Reply 74

Here we go, I found a photo of pretty much my ideal guy, he's quite tall, sturdly build, with some muscle but not too much, he also has realy nice hair which you can't see

Reply 75

-x-buttercup-x-
Here we go, I found a photo of pretty much my ideal guy, he's quite tall, sturdly build, with some muscle but not too much, he also has realy nice hair which you can't see

you blacked out his face?? :p:

from what i can see mmmm. would be easier to tell if he was wearing less XD

Reply 76

well he's a good friend and I don't want to post his face all over the net, he's very cute though!!

Reply 77

I have to agree with Amnesia to some extent, my face isnt good looking at all, and i used to go to the beach with my friends i never got any looks from women because i wasnt toned or had muscly arms or a 4/5pack, just ur average guy with a not very good looking face.

Then since last year ive been going to the gym and have got pretty toned upper body, and when we decide to go to the beach i do get stares, girls generally notice me more. However, it is always the yound chavy girls who come up to me and talk to me (*sigh*), and are generally 15/16 when i am 19 :frown:. I go to the gym to boost my confidence by the way, NOT to attract girls. I feel like i can go up to girls i like and talk to them now and feel good about myself. Sorry if this sounds vain.

Reply 78

more adventurous
You mean, the people who believe the opposite from you about girls' preferences are girls themselves, and therefore they are less qualified to know what their preferences are than you are? I wish you would listen to yourself, you have no idea how hilarious this is to everyone else.


But I don't believe that you would prefer an average man who had a chubby stomach to someone who is in decent shape. And I think the majoirty of women would agree with what I have said during this thread. The difference between me and you is that I have actively had relationships with women- you have not. When was the last time you tried to pull a girl?

high priestess fnord
2) most girls have more experience of what girls do in various situations. you only have your own personal experience. girls have their own experience and their friends because they talk about these things more (generalisation alert)


Girls often lie to each other about what they really want or like. I have seen what girls actually DO around both me and my friends. Yes, I am making generalisations and of course there will be exceptions, but I believe them to be acurate generalisations.

Reply 79

Anonymous
Then since last year ive been going to the gym and have got pretty toned upper body, and when we decide to go to the beach i do get stares, girls generally notice me more. However, it is always the yound chavy girls who come up to me and talk to me (*sigh*), and are generally 15/16 when i am 19 :frown:


how toned though? tbh im not a fan of the 6 pack (unless your talking about beer :smile: ) most girls like a bit of muscle. what we are saying is that we like a bit of padding too. skinny/too muscley isnt very attractive.

eeew chavs. you poor thing *pats*

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