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    Do you think it's acceptable to go to the pub with uni tutors/lecturers? And should anything that happens outside of university be considered completely separate and unrelated to things on-campus?

    I had a few pints with some tutors a few nights ago after classes finished, and at the end of the night when it was just one tutor and I after the others had gone home, it was quite clear that he had a pretty low alcohol tolerance and was fairly drunk. In a matter of minutes, he turned a good debate into a defensive and accusational argument.

    I could tell it was just the drink talking, so I decided to end the night there and head off home, but he wasn't having any of it and eventually I had to physically remove him from holding me back. For some reason he still wanted to argue. He obviously falls into the "aggressive when drunk" category.

    So do you think this is something to mention to the higher staff, or do you think what happens off-campus is not their responsibility do you think?
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    Bad idea.
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    Yes. You should also play Strip Poker with them in the corridor.
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    What happens off-campus, stays off-campus.
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    (Original post by XMaramena)
    Do you think it's acceptable to go to the pub with uni tutors/lecturers? And should anything that happens outside of university be considered completely separate and unrelated to things on-campus?

    I had a few pints with some tutors a few nights ago after classes finished, and at the end of the night when it was just one tutor and I after the others had gone home, it was quite clear that he had a pretty low alcohol tolerance and was fairly drunk. In a matter of minutes, he turned a good debate into a defensive and accusational argument.

    I could tell it was just the drink talking, so I decided to end the night there and head off home, but he wasn't having any of it and eventually I had to physically remove him from holding me back. For some reason he still wanted to argue. He obviously falls into the "aggressive when drunk" category.

    So do you think this is something to mention to the higher staff, or do you think what happens off-campus is not their responsibility do you think?
    I would just leave it: he obviously doesn't drink very often, and there is no reason to believe that his bad behaviour would persist when he is sober. Reporting him would cause him some problems but not lead to him being sacked, and that could lead to a lot of trouble for you.

    In general: university staff are NOT teachers, and drinking with them should be like drinking with senior work colleagues. Sharing a half with them is good for building working relationships, but a situation where people are getting close to their limit is best avoided.
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    (Original post by Voyager_2002)
    I would just leave it: he obviously doesn't drink very often, and there is no reason to believe that his bad behaviour would persist when he is sober. Reporting him would cause him some problems but not lead to him being sacked, and that could lead to a lot of trouble for you.

    In general: university staff are NOT teachers, and drinking with them should be like drinking with senior work colleagues. Sharing a half with them is good for building working relationships, but a situation where people are getting close to their limit is best avoided.
    Wise advice. Although I don't think I'll be as you say - sharing a half - with him in the future.
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    I think telling senior staff is a bit excessive - I doubt they'd sack him but it would damage his career prospects. If you feel it didn't go too far then your best bet is to pretend it didn't happen and not go out drinking with him again. Who knows, he might even be mortified about his behaviour and by being discreet about it then you've got some goodwill there too.

    It's funny, I honestly expected this to be story about how a student had disgraced themselves in front of their tutor. In the event, you were the one who acted with maturity.
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    So probably best not to follow up on the £500 bet that he lost to me then :P
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    I wouldn't do that with my teachers
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    No, don't tell any senior staff.
    Nothing wrong with going for a drink with them though. I've been for drinks and meals with mine too.
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    (Original post by XMaramena)
    So probably best not to follow up on the £500 bet that he lost to me then :P
    If you guys are mates outside uni then go ahead and mention it I'd try.
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    (Original post by XMaramena)
    So probably best not to follow up on the £500 bet that he lost to me then :P
    What was the bet?

    I'd argue "mere puff" - he didn't mean it seriously (and I think you knew that ). Contract Law 101. :p:
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    When I was a tutor I would sometimes go for a pint with some of the guys from class. Definitely wouldnt make a night of it though for exactly the kind of reason youve mentioned.
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    If I could sleep with the teacher who does my spread sheets seminar...

    I certainly would
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    (Original post by Tortious)
    What was the bet?

    I'd argue "mere puff" - he didn't mean it seriously (and I think you knew that ). Contract Law 101. :p:
    Mere puff is in respect of particular and obviously exaggerated representations made to induce a party to contract, not lawfully contracted by subsequently disadvantageous bargains.

    Example: "My car is the best car in the world, you should buy it"

    as opposed to a man saying "I'll bet you £1,000 I'm a woman"
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    (Original post by Voyager_2002)
    In general: university staff are NOT teachers, and drinking with them should be like drinking with senior work colleagues. Sharing a half with them is good for building working relationships, but a situation where people are getting close to their limit is best avoided.
    Very good advice, imho :yep:

    (For what it's worth, I used to go drinking with uni tutors and socialising with them :yes: There was drunken stroking of my hair on one occasion, which left me mortified :eek: )
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    (Original post by MostUncivilised)
    Mere puff is in respect of particular and obviously exaggerated representations made to induce a party to contract, not lawfully contracted by subsequently disadvantageous bargains.

    Example: "My car is the best car in the world, you should buy it"

    as opposed to a man saying "I'll bet you £1,000 I'm a woman"
    I'm pretty rusty on this but I thought a bet was probably "roughly a contract" (although then I suppose you get into the question of what constitutes consideration in this case). I'm not really sure I follow/agree with your opening statement of the rule though, since something like "I bet you £500 I can backflip over the pool table" isn't really a "bad bargain" - it's such a ridiculous notion that it doesn't really have a value, if you see what I mean.
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    That's fine.

    I seriously thinking one of my lecturers is banging one of the students. It's a lecture of about 9 people, and the sexual chemistry between him and her is just so obvious!
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    Fine to have a drink with them, I always looked at mine as more of a colleague-relationship than teacher-relationship and drank with them at times.

    But the fact that he is a **** when drunk is something you'll find with a lot of people... You just learn to avoid them when mixed with alcohol knowing they're perfectly nice people otherwise. Nothing to take personally and I definitely wouldn't even dream of making a complaint.
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    (Original post by Tortious)
    I'm pretty rusty on this but I thought a bet was probably "roughly a contract" (although then I suppose you get into the question of what constitutes consideration in this case)
    Gambling contracts are enforceable since the Gambling Act 2005. The consideration is the risk both parties accrue to contract with one another.

    since something like "I bet you £500 I can backflip over the pool table" isn't really a "bad bargain" - it's such a ridiculous notion that it doesn't really have a value, if you see what I mean.
    And the court would look at whether both parties objectively had ICLR. This is not the same as the enforceability of particular representations.

    I'm not really sure I follow/agree with your opening statement of the rule though
    With respect, my statement was an accurate summary of what constitutes mere puff. I don't mean to be provocative, but it seems clear that you are indeed rusty.
 
 
 
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