Are ethnic minorities insecure about their British identity

Wow... I hate when people are like this. You are the type of person to go "please don't judge all muslims for what a small minority of extremists do" but then you turn around and say British culture is degenerate and filled with thugs and sluts basing this statement entirely off your experience of a small amount of British people from a rough council estate.

They did not start slavery thank you very much. Arab slave traders where around enslaving christian and european peoples long before the British got involved.

Every man and his dog can be British - there is no requirement to speak English or behave a certain way. It means nothing. So being called British is like being compared to a dog.

oh I see, it's just a meaningless label right.

The stuff about British people being personal influences on Hitler is just fluff, you don't blame somebody's personal influences for their genocidal actions.

I'm astonished that you say Britain "started slavery". Not least because slavery has been going on for thousands of years (since the dawn of human history really), but also because Britain was not the only country or people to participate in the Atlantic slave trade. What about the African, Arab and other European slave traders? What about other slavers, like the Aztec imperialists? To think that Britain "started slavery" is to have a view of the world's history which is diametrically opposed to fact.

it's not fluff- everyone has a tendency of believing what they read if they think it's from a credible source i.e. a text book- Hitler was definitely influenced by the science literature on Eugenics from the 19th century. He definitely used it to discriminate against what he called lesser people to preserve the more desirable genetics of the strong among the Aryan race. And what I said about the war, was that it was partly caused by imperialism and that if they had been no war, then they wouldn't not have been no treaty of Versailles, therefore perhaps no Hitler.
As for the slavery, I was talking about the Atlantic slave trade and how somehow Britain then thought it was okay to bring African slaves to work on their American colonies.

You Caribbean bro ?

Every man and his dog can be British - there is no requirement to speak English or behave a certain way. It means nothing. So being called British is like being compared to a dog.

I'm guessing you've never been through the application process for citizenship either!

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Hahahahaha. Seriously?

Arab slave traders were notorious, what about the Egyptians or the Romans? Are you seriously denying the extent slavery has been around in human history? It has been around a lot longer than the political entity of England has been around, let alone the United Kingdom.

But you are right, the UK did abolish it and actively police the banning of slavery around the world, whilst the French, Portugese, Arabs, African slave traders were getting rich off it. The UK government went to war with nations to stop them from using slavery, it ultimately changed the world for the better.

Um no the UK stop Alavert because it was no longer economically viable. Little to to with any moral high ground . And I think you will find the First Nation to abolish Slavery was Haiti.

Reference to the atrocity and inhumane acts of the Atlantic Slave Trade.

There may have been small nations who banned slavery, but on a world wide scale, Haiti achieved little and in the end Napoleon re-established slavery there. Britain actively enforced a ban, worldwide. Slavery was still very profitable, The French, Netherlands, United States and Portugal were still using slaves as the basis of propping up their empires.

You want to read a history book about how much Britain made it a moral crusade to stop the big empires, pressuring massive nations into signing treaties that would remove slavery from the western world (apart from the United States who had bringing new slaves in, but still kept them... until their own civil war to abolish slavery).

There may have been small nations who banned slavery, but on a world wide scale, Haiti achieved little and in the end Napoleon re-established slavery there. Britain actively enforced a ban, worldwide. Slavery was still very profitable, The French, Netherlands, United States and Portugal were still using slaves as the basis of propping up their empires.

You want to read a history book about how much Britain made it a moral crusade to stop the big empires, pressuring massive nations into signing treaties that would remove slavery from the western world (apart from the United States who had bringing new slaves in, but still kept them... until their own civil war to abolish slavery).

Hope your trolling

They had plenty of years of slave labour

your argument is analagous to saying hitlers germany was good because it had full employment...

Do they feel British ?

Why do they need constant re-assurance that they are British ?

I fully acknowledge their use of slaves, but they police their abolishment. Not even the Americans wanted to do that... nor the French (who heavily relied on slaves for their economies at the time).

I'm not a troll... Britain may have had a past with using slaves but for righteous or strategic reasons, Britain ended the slave trade. This is coming from a history student. I honestly don't give a crap about the UK and I don't give a **** about it's future but I'm not going to den y it's past. How am I the one who's trolling?

It quite saddens me when I hear people bashing the British for our 'brief' involvement in the slave trade, yes it happened, yes it helped give the Imperial economy a boost, but the decent Britsh people did not support the idea of slavery, and so Britain soon became the global leader in slavery reform, Britain was the first (and for a long time) the only real champion of the abolition of slavery, we sent out the royal navy and even went to war with other countries including America, in part over their refusal to abolish slavery... So really we should be proud of this and of our part in eradicating slavery from western society.

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