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Reply 1
TheWolf
Hey guys i just looked at the manchester university prospectus a few things seemed abit weird:

1 - L100 i.e. straight economics is a BA, where the only bsc Economics is called Economic Studies- whys this? is Economic Studies straight Economics?

2- Requirement grades of the BSC Economic Studies is lower than Ba Economics?

any help/info would be cool :wink:


dont know about da 1st 1, but for the 2nd question i think its becus ba economics is more popular
Reply 2
ABCD
dont know about da 1st 1, but for the 2nd question i think its becus ba economics is more popular


i think manchester offers 2 straight economic courses - one less mathematically inclined ie ba (this one is mainlyfor teaching...etc) the other bsc one (economic studies) is for going into finance careers that require more mathematically skills?
Reply 3
TheWolf
i think manchester offers 2 straight economic courses - one less mathematically inclined ie ba (this one is mainlyfor teaching...etc) the other bsc one (economic studies) is for going into finance careers that require more mathematically skills?


Seems the most logical answer in my opinion. Although this is because when I see the word "studies", I immediate assume the subject to be shoddy...don't really know why?!? :confused:
Reply 4
TheWolf
i think manchester offers 2 straight economic courses - one less mathematically inclined ie ba (this one is mainlyfor teaching...etc) the other bsc one (economic studies) is for going into finance careers that require more mathematically skills?


Hi Wolf, I applied to Manchester for Economics ( rejected the offer) and as far as I know the difference between the two courses(L100 and L101) is L101 will allow you to specialise in pure Economics from the first year and it contains more maths content. I chose L101 because the offer is lower and I do double maths( they actually gave me ABC).
Reply 5
Eco_girl
Hi Wolf, I applied to Manchester for Economics ( rejected the offer) and as far as I know the difference between the two courses(L100 and L101) is L101 will allow you to specialise in pure Economics from the first year and it contains more maths content. I chose L101 because the offer is lower and I do double maths( they actually gave me ABC).


HEY WHATS L101? what unis did you apply to?
Reply 6
I applied to Economics at Manchester for L100 BA Econ and i'm probably going to accept the offer (maybe St Andrews). I've recently been in touch with them about the difference between the BEconSc (L101) and the BA Econ (L100) due to the BSc being better than the BA debate. The difference is that the BA Econ is run through the Economics and Social Studies department - hence the name. All this means is that application to this degree doesn't tie you to it. You are free to move around within the department, including subjects such as Finance, Accounting, Politics etc. You have to choose your specialist area in the second year. If you follow Economics then you will get a BA Econ in straight Economics. The BEconSc is run only through the Economics department and is aimed at people that already know they want to specialise and only focuses on core modules. Your choice within the degree and its flexibility is fairly limited. I think that is why the BA Econ is more popular - people who are unsure where their interests fall are attracted to it. I was because i am considering specialising in Financial Economics to go into investment banking - the BA Econ gives me this option.

With regards to the maths and modules - you are free to take exactly the same content within the BA Econ as you are in the BEconSc. The only benefit i see of the latter is that BSc's are perhaps regarded as slightly better. However, with the right module options on the BA this counts for nothing.

As far as i am aware Manchester is a 'top-tier' university (not the same league as G5 obviously) and the Econ department is very good and well respected. In addition the BA Econ from Manchester is a very respected degree. I'm hoping to go into a top city job so if anyone thinks this degree isn't going to cut it for that then post your thoughts while my choices are still open to me.

Cheers
Reply 7
Econ
I applied to Economics at Manchester for L100 BA Econ and i'm probably going to accept the offer (maybe St Andrews). I've recently been in touch with them about the difference between the BEconSc (L101) and the BA Econ (L100) due to the BSc being better than the BA debate. The difference is that the BA Econ is run through the Economics and Social Studies department - hence the name. All this means is that application to this degree doesn't tie you to it. You are free to move around within the department, including subjects such as Finance, Accounting, Politics etc. You have to choose your specialist area in the second year. If you follow Economics then you will get a BA Econ in straight Economics. The BEconSc is run only through the Economics department and is aimed at people that already know they want to specialise and only focuses on core modules. Your choice within the degree and its flexibility is fairly limited. I think that is why the BA Econ is more popular - people who are unsure where their interests fall are attracted to it. I was because i am considering specialising in Financial Economics to go into investment banking - the BA Econ gives me this option.

With regards to the maths and modules - you are free to take exactly the same content within the BA Econ as you are in the BEconSc. The only benefit i see of the latter is that BSc's are perhaps regarded as slightly better. However, with the right module options on the BA this counts for nothing.

As far as i am aware Manchester is a 'top-tier' university (not the same league as G5 obviously) and the Econ department is very good and well respected. In addition the BA Econ from Manchester is a very respected degree. I'm hoping to go into a top city job so if anyone thinks this degree isn't going to cut it for that then post your thoughts while my choices are still open to me.

Cheers


depends wot ur other unis r.....
Reply 8
wonkey
depends wot ur other unis r.....


Unless its LSE then I wouldn't even contemplate changing for prestige reasons....
Reply 9
TheWolf
i think manchester offers 2 straight economic courses - one less mathematically inclined ie ba (this one is mainlyfor teaching...etc) the other bsc one (economic studies) is for going into finance careers that require more mathematically skills?


What do you mean 'this one is mainly for teaching'?

Do you not think it's a very good degree just because it's BA?

I'm a straight A student (doesn't mean much these days) and with a lot of effort and hard work, hope to go into a fairly competitive city job in the finance, consultancy or investment banking sector.

I'm choosing Manchester due to the social side of the university experience as well as the academics but this could be a bad decision if people feel the degree isn't up to much.
Reply 10
Leekey
Unless its LSE then I wouldn't even contemplate changing for prestige reasons....


UCL?? no?!
Reply 11
wonkey
depends wot ur other unis r.....


St Andrews Bsc Econ ABB - Rejected from Oxford (after interview), Bath and York (Only AS maths - both only took candidates with A'level this year due to the oversubscription)
Reply 12
Econ
What do you mean 'this one is mainly for teaching'?

Do you not think it's a very good degree just because it's BA?

I'm a straight A student (doesn't mean much these days) and with a lot of effort and hard work, hope to go into a fairly competitive city job in the finance, consultancy or investment banking sector.

I'm choosing Manchester due to the social side of the university experience as well as the academics but this could be a bad decision if people feel the degree isn't up to much.


Manchester is a very good uni and its reputation can only improve in coming years so I would have no doubts about the general brand name you will have behind you. Also the economics department is know (even by ignorant little me) to be VERY strong so you should have not problems there. The graduate employement for Manchester as a whole and the way the graduates are percieved by employers means that you have a solid base to work with in the future. Plus there is all the advantages of being in a city!!!
Reply 13
Econ
St Andrews Bsc Econ ABB - Rejected from Oxford (after interview), Bath and York (Only AS maths - both only took candidates with A'level this year due to the oversubscription)



stick with manchester!
Reply 14
so the BA Econ from Manchester is reputable enough to atleast give me a shot at the top city finance/investment jobs from city firms such as Mckinsey, Merril Lynch and Goldman Sachs?
Reply 15
Econ
so the BA Econ from Manchester is reputable enough to atleast give me a shot at the top city finance/investment jobs from city firms such as Mckinsey, Merril Lynch and Goldman Sachs?


A first from Manchester (particularly in 4 years time) will give you a shot at any finance job in this little nation of ours!!! :wink:
Reply 16
Econ
What do you mean 'this one is mainly for teaching'?

Do you not think it's a very good degree just because it's BA?

I'm a straight A student (doesn't mean much these days) and with a lot of effort and hard work, hope to go into a fairly competitive city job in the finance, consultancy or investment banking sector.

I'm choosing Manchester due to the social side of the university experience as well as the academics but this could be a bad decision if people feel the degree isn't up to much.


dont take my word, but i have been told tat if you want to get a top City job, you should always get a bsc. The problem with the ba with manchester seems to me is the 1st year, everything is so broad, you do a bit of this and a bit of that. It seems that you do so much more with economics with bsc Econ? anyone agree? The thing is - if you want to be an investment banker - a bsc always give you an advantage because employers know that it is always more mathematically/scientifically based than a ba. anyone agree?
Reply 17
ABCD
a bsc always give you an advantage because employers know that it is always more mathematically/scientifically based than a ba. anyone agree?


Yes but it would depend on how pedantic the employer fancies being. If the thread starter is 100% certain that they want to go into a finance based job then the bsc may be the way to go.
Reply 18
Econ
so the BA Econ from Manchester is reputable enough to atleast give me a shot at the top city finance/investment jobs from city firms such as Mckinsey, Merril Lynch and Goldman Sachs?


dunno bout the other 2.....but unlikely with goldman sachs, heard they mainly recruit oxbridge, maybe a few LSEs. but def get a 1st in ur degree to stand a gd chance
Reply 19
Econ
so the BA Econ from Manchester is reputable enough to atleast give me a shot at the top city finance/investment jobs from city firms such as Mckinsey, Merril Lynch and Goldman Sachs?


if you read the prospectus, the ba Econ's career opportuinities have nothing about working in the City/banking, whereas with the bsc Econ, it says 'our graduates have pursed careers in the City (Goldman Sachs, Merrill Lynch, Citibank,PWC)...etc. But i think with the ba, if you do some postgrad course, u will have no problem working in the City