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Short Term/Payday Loans stories please!

Hiya guys,

I'm writing an article for an online magazine called Planet Ivy about students taking out short term/pay day loans. I had one myself whilst at uni (just graduated in July), and I definitely wouldn't recommend it, but I'm looking for some general stories about/thoughts on them, if anyone's willing to share.

Thank you :smile:

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Very dangerous and best avoided I would say, due to the huge interest rates etc. You're probably better off using a credit card/getting a loan from the bank
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I have taken out two over the past five years and my view is that people really scare mong them.

When somebody takes out £100 they pay on average £125 over 30 days. The media however likes to report the huge annual APR sums because it suits their agenda despite the fact that the loans are not over a period of a year.

Would i advise taking one out? No (Get a dam job). Are they as bad as the media suggests however? No. When one looks at the people that take them out and keep renewing them it's typically to maintain their lifestyle because there not willing to give up coffee ect.. and strip down to the bones.
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Original post by Get_Lucky_606
Very dangerous and best avoided I would say, due to the huge interest rates etc. You're probably better off using a credit card/getting a loan from the bank


The vast majority of people who use these services probably can't get a credit card or a loan from a bank. I've known someone who took one simply to pay off the minimum payment of their Barclays Credit Card that was already over the credit limit.
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They are a bit like drugs. Only dangerous if you abuse them.

I currently owe over £15,000 to payday loan companies. All my own fault but some of them are still shocking.

One called me up and offered me a £800 loan even though they knew I was in debt management and that I have a compulsive gambling problem and I told them that I was soon to be bankrupt. I now owe over £2,000 for that particular £800 but I guess the joke is on them because my bankruptcy is soon to go through and they will get nothing.
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Original post by Get_Lucky_606
Very dangerous and best avoided I would say, due to the huge interest rates etc. You're probably better off using a credit card/getting a loan from the bank


The clue is in the term 'pay day loans'. They are not meant for the long term.
I took out a £100 loan with Wonga, paid back £120 about two weeks later.

I wouldn't recommend pay-day-loans though, they are a last resort, you should ask your family first! It's easy to miss a payment and get into debt. My friend took out a loan also, said he would pay back on X date, as that is when he was getting paid! But his work paid his on the wrong date, so he got loads of charges and then had to pay back nearly double! And his work would not do anything either
Original post by Rakas21
I have taken out two over the past five years and my view is that people really scare mong them.

When somebody takes out £100 they pay on average £125 over 30 days. The media however likes to report the huge annual APR sums because it suits their agenda despite the fact that the loans are not over a period of a year.

Would i advise taking one out? No (Get a dam job). Are they as bad as the media suggests however? No. When one looks at the people that take them out and keep renewing them it's typically to maintain their lifestyle because there not willing to give up coffee ect.. and strip down to the bones.


I work full-time and took one out, I needed my brake pads done on my car, so I effectively paid £20 for the privilege of doing so.
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Original post by IntriguedUser
I work full-time and took one out, I needed my brake pads done on my car, so I effectively paid £20 for the privilege of doing so.


Fair enough, one offs are fairly ideal for it if you want money quickly.

Personally i won't have that problem for a few years as I've always taken the view that people should live close to where they work (until one settles down and moves to suburbia).
You should only ever get one if you know for an absolute FACT that you'll be able to pay them back.

Sometimes things can happen that means we have to anticipate our salary a bit, costs that might occur that we hadn't planned or budgeted for, and sometimes these are unavoidable. In these cases, payday loans can provide a fantastic, short term service.. but you HAVE to be RESPONSIBLE.
Original post by xoxAngel_Kxox
You should only ever get one if you know for an absolute FACT that you'll be able to pay them back.

Sometimes things can happen that means we have to anticipate our salary a bit, costs that might occur that we hadn't planned or budgeted for, and sometimes these are unavoidable. In these cases, payday loans can provide a fantastic, short term service.. but you HAVE to be RESPONSIBLE.



This, it even says on the websites to only apply if you KNOW you can pay it back. I mean OBVIOUSLY they want you to not pay it back, so they can keep charhing you. But end of the day, it warns against the use of them
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Original post by IntriguedUser
I mean OBVIOUSLY they want you to not pay it back, so they can keep charhing you.


That's not quite true. I think the model most run off is 15% will completely default. At that stage, if they pass it to debt management they will likely get nothing. They just accept that - it is built into their pricing.

Funnily enough, after I turned my phone on for a bit - a payday loan company called me. I offered them £20 to write off a £2700 debt but they are saying they would rather accept nothing and keep it on the books until it is written off via bankruptcy.
Original post by meenu89
The clue is in the term 'pay day loans'. They are not meant for the long term.



I am aware of that, I have used loans etc in the past. Just saying it's very dangerous if you can't make the payment, I always saw them as something for people with bad credit/can't get a loan somewhere else I might be wrong though.
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The goverment capped them thats good my mom took one out and got bare stresssed cos she couldnt pay it. Had to get my uncle and dad to pay it for her
Original post by Jay84
That's not quite true. I think the model most run off is 15% will completely default. At that stage, if they pass it to debt management they will likely get nothing. They just accept that - it is built into their pricing.

Funnily enough, after I turned my phone on for a bit - a payday loan company called me. I offered them £20 to write off a £2700 debt but they are saying they would rather accept nothing and keep it on the books until it is written off via bankruptcy.


Well in terms of a business you're right, they know X amount of people won't pay it back, but they still want you to get charged so they can make their money....

Aha, that's quite funny. My friend, well not really a friend, but this guy said he took out a £6000 loan without the intention of paying it back because after 5 years they write it off, which I think is what your talking about lol?

Your credit history will suck though!!???
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Original post by IntriguedUser
Well in terms of a business you're right, they know X amount of people won't pay it back, but they still want you to get charged so they can make their money....

Aha, that's quite funny. My friend, well not really a friend, but this guy said he took out a £6000 loan without the intention of paying it back because after 5 years they write it off, which I think is what your talking about lol?

Your credit history will suck though!!???


I have a CCJ from a store credit card which I've not paid, the only credit I've got is a phone from 3.
Reply 16
Original post by IntriguedUser
Well in terms of a business you're right, they know X amount of people won't pay it back, but they still want you to get charged so they can make their money....

Aha, that's quite funny. My friend, well not really a friend, but this guy said he took out a £6000 loan without the intention of paying it back because after 5 years they write it off, which I think is what your talking about lol?

Your credit history will suck though!!???


No. When they charge you for non payment - they aren't making anymore than they make when they lend to people who pay on time.

The only extra charges are small admin fees which get eaten up hy the cost of chasing you.

They basically want people to pay back the money but accept that they will have to write off 15% of what they lend. There is no incentive for them for people to fall behind on payments - it ruins their margin rather than improving it. Think about it would you be happy to let someone who owed you money and hadn't paid you back keep it on the basis that you could tell them they owe you more money or would you rather get it back and lend it at the same interest rate to someone likely to actually pay you back.

No. I am going bankrupt and have no income or assets so I mean they just won't get anything because there is nothing to take. My credit rating is already as ****ed as it can be in any case. I won't be able to legally borrow more than a total of £1,000 at any one time for upto 8 years.

The person you have spoken to is possibly confused. The debt could possibly get written off bit more likely would lead to a ccj (which would mean non payment could lead to jail) or ultimately bankruptcy. In any scenario, taking the money and spending it isn't gojng to profit unless the years of consequence that follow really seem worth a few grand to you. It is a fraudulent act too so you could end up going to prison or at the minimum getting a (BRO) bankruptcy restriction order.

I am currently looking at a BRO of probably 8 years. I will never be able to own a home and most likely won't be able to get a car or go on holiday for at least five years or so.

I don't really give a **** about any of that but most people would have to think about things like that to see if a couple of grand is worth it.
Original post by Jay84
No. When they charge you for non payment - they aren't making anymore than they make when they lend to people who pay on time.

The only extra charges are small admin fees which get eaten up hy the cost of chasing you.

They basically want people to pay back the money but accept that they will have to write off 15% of what they lend. There is no incentive for them for people to fall behind on payments - it ruins their margin rather than improving it. Think about it would you be happy to let someone who owed you money and hadn't paid you back keep it on the basis that you could tell them they owe you more money or would you rather get it back and lend it at the same interest rate to someone likely to actually pay you back.

No. I am going bankrupt and have no income or assets so I mean they just won't get anything because there is nothing to take. My credit rating is already as ****ed as it can be in any case. I won't be able to legally borrow more than a total of £1,000 at any one time for upto 8 years.

The person you have spoken to is possibly confused. The debt could possibly get written off bit more likely would lead to a ccj (which would mean non payment could lead to jail) or ultimately bankruptcy. In any scenario, taking the money and spending it isn't gojng to profit unless the years of consequence that follow really seem worth a few grand to you. It is a fraudulent act too so you could end up going to prison or at the minimum getting a (BRO) bankruptcy restriction order.

I am currently looking at a BRO of probably 8 years. I will never be able to own a home and most likely won't be able to get a car or go on holiday for at least five years or so.

I don't really give a **** about any of that but most people would have to think about things like that to see if a couple of grand is worth it.



Hey man, good luck with your situation. Well forget about finance, just save up and buy a car instead! My motto is if you ain't got the money, you ain't got the money!
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Hey I am a producer with Channel 5 news - if anyone is thinking of taking out a payday loan for Christmas and is up for being filmed please get in touch. 0207 098 2912.
It's not to meant to be negative - rather to show how expensive xmas is - and how people will pay for it! Thanks.
Original post by Jay84
No. When they charge you for non payment - they aren't making anymore than they make when they lend to people who pay on time.

The only extra charges are small admin fees which get eaten up hy the cost of chasing you.

They basically want people to pay back the money but accept that they will have to write off 15% of what they lend. There is no incentive for them for people to fall behind on payments - it ruins their margin rather than improving it. Think about it would you be happy to let someone who owed you money and hadn't paid you back keep it on the basis that you could tell them they owe you more money or would you rather get it back and lend it at the same interest rate to someone likely to actually pay you back.

No. I am going bankrupt and have no income or assets so I mean they just won't get anything because there is nothing to take. My credit rating is already as ****ed as it can be in any case. I won't be able to legally borrow more than a total of £1,000 at any one time for upto 8 years.

The person you have spoken to is possibly confused. The debt could possibly get written off bit more likely would lead to a ccj (which would mean non payment could lead to jail) or ultimately bankruptcy. In any scenario, taking the money and spending it isn't gojng to profit unless the years of consequence that follow really seem worth a few grand to you. It is a fraudulent act too so you could end up going to prison or at the minimum getting a (BRO) bankruptcy restriction order.

I am currently looking at a BRO of probably 8 years. I will never be able to own a home and most likely won't be able to get a car or go on holiday for at least five years or so.

I don't really give a **** about any of that but most people would have to think about things like that to see if a couple of grand is worth it.


Why won't you be able to own a home? Could you rent a flat?

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