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    (Original post by DayneD89)
    Fair enough I guess, just seemed odd to see you in here.
    If anything it was just so I could make a reference to McCarthy.
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    (Original post by DayneD89)
    Fair enough I guess, just seemed odd to see you in here.
    Are you a Marxist, Dayne? I was under the impression that you were more of a liberal anarchist type.
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    (Original post by Abiraleft)
    Are you a Marxist, Dayne? I was under the impression that you were more of a liberal anarchist type.
    I hate classifications. I am who I am. My views are what they are and I refuse to define them in terms of any ideology. If you had to marxism would be one of the ones I'm fairly close to in many ways.
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    (Original post by DayneD89)
    I hate classifications. I am who I am. My views are what they are and I refuse to define them in terms of any ideology. If you had to marxism would be one of the ones I'm fairly close to in many ways.
    Fair enough. What do you think of Marxism, then?
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    I'm broadly a libertarian socialist, and find quite a lot of value in reading Marx and Engels, but I believe Marxism is, in many ways, pretty much a theological doctrine rather than a serious way of studying the world
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    (Original post by Abiraleft)
    Fair enough. What do you think of Marxism, then?
    This is where you catch me out As I've said, I pay little notice of political ideologies and I'm still exploring the new area I've found my politics in. On marxism all I can say for now is that I'm definitely in favor of public ownership of the means of production, rather than a private system as we have in capitalism. I like the idea of democratic communities working together without the need for capitalist control for example.
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    (Original post by thunder_chunky)
    If anything it was just so I could make a reference to McCarthy.
    What about (the) McCarthy (era)
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    (Original post by Mr_K_Dilkington)
    I'm broadly a libertarian socialist, and find quite a lot of value in reading Marx and Engels, but I believe Marxism is, in many ways, pretty much a theological doctrine rather than a serious way of studying the world
    What about Left-Marxism/Left-Communism? I see virtually no differences between that and traditional anarchism/anarcho-syndicalism.
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    (Original post by SunOfABeach)
    What about Left-Marxism/Left-Communism? I see virtually no differences between that and traditional anarchism/anarcho-syndicalism.
    How do you mean?
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    I'd call myself a left-wing libertarian I suppose.


    (Original post by Mr_K_Dilkington)
    I believe Marxism is, in many ways, pretty much a theological doctrine rather than a serious way of studying the world
    Exactly and this religious aspect makes far more liable to encourage violence and authoritarianism in my opinion.
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    Oh hello. I'd like to join you all.
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    (Original post by pumpkin gets a snakebite)
    Oh hello. I'd like to join you all.
    We're not really doing much at the moment, but welcome.
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    (Original post by Abiraleft)
    We're not really doing much at the moment, but welcome.
    Nonetheless, thank you.
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    (Original post by pumpkin gets a snakebite)
    Nonetheless, thank you.
    You've been added :top:
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    What do people think about the use of mass strikes in political protest?
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    (Original post by SunOfABeach)
    What about Left-Marxism/Left-Communism? I see virtually no differences between that and traditional anarchism/anarcho-syndicalism.
    The means differ, the ends remain (atleast for social anarchists) the same. The former being for communists the seizing of the state (be it through parliamentary or revolutionary tactics), while for anarchists the destruction of the state and eradication of hierachy all together (hence anarchists abstension from representative government).
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    (Original post by Jeremy_Whiskers)
    The means differ, the ends remain (atleast for social anarchists) the same. The former being for communists the seizing of the state (be it through parliamentary or revolutionary tactics), while for anarchists the destruction of the state and eradication of hierachy all together.
    Not really, no. You're talking about Marxism-Leninism. Council Communists or Left-Communists/Marxists do not want to seize the state. They don't want to create a new state in the traditional sense (Soviet Union was an example of a traditional state). They want local communes and worker's councils to have ultimate authority - not a single entity with a monopoly on power (i.e. the state).
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    (Original post by SunOfABeach)
    Not really, no. You're talking about Marxism-Leninism.
    I have serious doubts on the Lennism part.
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    (Original post by Stricof)
    I have serious doubts on the Lennism part.
    What do you mean?
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    (Original post by SunOfABeach)
    What do you mean?
    I mean Marxism Lennism is Orthodox Communism, not the potential Anarchist Communism that could occur after the dictatorship of the prole stage
 
 
 
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