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What is your politics?

Do you believe in giving people a helping hand at their hour of need or people should fend for themselves, depending only on their own intelligence and work-ethic and inherited luxuries?
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What is your politics?

Do you believe in giving people a helping hand at their hour of need or people should fend for themselves, depending only on their own intelligence and work-ethic and inherited luxuries?
Can't it be a bit of both? I think everyone should ultimately self-improve independently, but a decent social safety net is essential to help the less fortunate.
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Can't it be a bit of both? I think everyone should ultimately self-improve independently, but a decent social safety net is essential to help the less fortunate.
My question would be, has there ever been a government that has done that successfully? Labour didn't. Conservatives are pandering to the wealthy. Historically there are no successful examples.
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My question would be, has there ever been a government that has done that successfully? Labour didn't. Conservatives are pandering to the wealthy. Historically there are no successful examples.
You're ignoring the entirety of the postwar period? Even the present government hasn't dismantled the welfare state. The difference is the matter of degree on how much independence people should have and how much protection they should enjoy.
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You're ignoring the entirety of the postwar period? Even the present government hasn't dismantled the welfare state. The difference is the matter of degree on how much independence people should have and how much protection they should enjoy.
Do you believe the Conservatives be rid of the debt in 5 years as they have proposed, I don't think so. Debt will be around like a stink that won't sink. These benefits won't be around for long. The protection we have is going to be short-lived, they only started at the beginning of the century with the first ever pensions, this welfare system has been tested properly as an idea for you to say for full-assurance that it will stay around in the straightened future.
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You're ignoring the entirety of the postwar period? Even the present government hasn't dismantled the welfare state. The difference is the matter of degree on how much independence people should have and how much protection they should enjoy.
A sustainable welfare system is wishful thinking.
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You've presented a false dilemma. It is possible to find a balance between efficient spending and caring for the less fortunate. If Government's purpose is to say 'you're poor? Tough cookies', then there's no point to it.
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You've presented a false dilemma. It is possible to find a balance between efficient spending and caring for the less fortunate. If Government's purpose is to say 'you're poor? Tough cookies', then there's no point to it.
In what way is it false? It's only too realistic a prospect. Efficient and effective is your point but that hasn't been realized yet.

When Labour get elected next time, they'll be cranking up the spending wheel all over again guv'. We're not reaching an optimized nirvana of social well-being, the system infantilizes people and they live too long for their own good. Happiness index - nope, that's a non-starter.
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In what way is it false? It's only too realistic a prospect. Efficient and effective is your point but that hasn't been realized yet.

When Labour get elected next time, they'll be cranking up the spending wheel all over again guv'. We're not reaching an optimized nirvana of social well-being, the system infantilizes people and they live too long for their own good. Happiness index - nope, that's a non-starter.
I'd rather an attempt at caring for others than simply consigning people to misery and poverty, Victorian-style.
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What is your politics?

Do you believe in giving people a helping hand at their hour of need or people should fend for themselves, depending only on their own intelligence and work-ethic and inherited luxuries?
My politics is a pragmatic, moderate, right wing, liberal blend. A mixture of One Nation Conservatism and Classical Liberalism i suppose.

I believe in the existence of a minimal welfare state and that government should at least in part fund infrastructure (the idea of leaving the market to it is only practical in city states where demand is high). I find the notion that the poor (who have a propensity to consume) have to bear the burden of taxation as politically offensive as universal benefits handing pensioners who may be wealthy money.
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What is your politics?

Do you believe in giving people a helping hand at their hour of need or people should fend for themselves, depending only on their own intelligence and work-ethic and inherited luxuries?
Lean towards liberal socialism. I believe society has a duty to help everyone and those at the top are morally obliged to help out
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I am something of a rare breed for UK politics - I am a very large libertarian, almost an anarcho-anarchist; I am in favour of effectively reducing government down to the police services, government personnel and military services and very little else to make taxation virtually non-existent by comparison to the current model; for me, there should be no public schools, no public hospitals, social housing etc but at the same time, there should be no bans on private non-violent actions should as taking drugs, prostitution, gun ownership, euthanasia, gambling, etc. I'm also a republican (not in the US sense), meaning that I disagree with the monarchy and I believe in electing our own head of state. I'm in favour of radical democratisation e.g. proportional voting, more referenda, federalism, etc. I completely disagree with war unless we're attacked first. I also think we should have a written constitution and a separation of church and state. that's basically my politics summed up, and no, I don't think britain will ever reach the same conclusions I do, but one can always dream...
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It depends on what issue is being discussed. If it's about global financial institutions, I'd probably be considered a socialist. If it's about the Monarchy, I'd be considered a traditionalist conservative.

I don't really like labels, and that's why I find it very difficult to support any one political party.
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People should be given a helpful hand at their time of need. But by individuals and society rather than by the state.
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Very liberal and very left wing.
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Green.
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Tend to lean left wing, government has a role to play in many issues and therefore to reduce it significantly would be a dramatically bad decision.
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I'd describe myself as a Socialist; all basic necessities in life are funded by the taxpayer, and are government run. The problem in the UK is the welfare system doesn't benefit the right people at times, and punishes others wrongly.
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