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Rejected from Warwick despite 6 A-levels

I got rejected from Warwick for straight Economics (L100), which I was a bit shocked by. The typical offer for the course is AAB. Without wanting to be bigheaded, I felt I deserved a place. I was quite keen on Warwick and wanted to put it as my insurance.

Below are some of the key points of my application:
- GCSE: 8 A*s, 2 A’s
- AS-level: 6 A’s
- 291 UMS for Economics (mentioned on P.S)
- A-levels: Got 2 A’s in Business Studies and General studies (both self-taught) in January.
- Taking A-levels in Maths, Physics, French and Economics, predicted straight A’s.
- Doing AEA Maths and AEA French
- Can speak four languages, three fluently
- Lived abroad for 5 years
- From a state school
- Relevant work experience
- Got offers from Oxford (E&M), Nottingham, Bristol, York and Bath.
- County football player

Do you think I have been discriminated against for being an Oxbridge candidate? And if so do you think this type of discrimination is fair?

I contacted Warwick to ask for feedback and they simply gave me the usual speech about how competitive admissions was this year.

BTW well done to anyone who did get an offer, they were supposedly 3000 applicants for 135 places.

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sportsman


3000 applicants for 135 places.


There's your answer?
Reply 2
yes but unis make a LOT more offers than places, because obviously not all of the students will take them up.
Reply 3
And - to be honest - it might to very competitive, but you really think there are going to be 135 people better than the original poster?
Reply 4
they probably guessed u were an oxbridge candidate, and having looked at your credentials, would have thought there was no point, because they could make more use of the place to someone who might actuallygo there- ie someone who might not be likely to get a higher offer or would accept them as first choice.

a girl i know does 5 alevels, predicted straight A's again, does a LOT of extra-curricular music stuff, got rejected for NatSci at durham, but got a place at camb. we dont know exactly why, but i think its cos they mustve found out that she has the poorest communication skills ive ever seen- she just cant talk to anyone, she doesnt socialise at all- durham isnt that kinda place, whereas cos theres so much work at camb, it wouldnt matter as much. from what uve said it sounds like that doesnt apply to you, so maybe they just got fed up sifting the pile of eligible applicants?

as for the discrimination, i think it is fair, not to rejected from EVERYWHERE else obviously, but theres millions of people who cant get into any uni at all, let alone oxbridge, so they should have that chance earlier on, rather than having to wait till august and go through clearing or whatever
Katie Heskins
And - to be honest - it might to very competitive, but you really think there are going to be 135 people better than the original poster?


Maybe. Maybe not?

It wouldn't be wrong of them to have done what is being implied?
Reply 6
I was rejected by four universities who only ask for BBB-CCC despite having good AS grades (5A's). This may be discrimination as I have an offer from cambridge but I dont really have a good insurance choice.
Reply 7
sportsman
I got rejected from Warwick for straight Economics (L100), which I was a bit shocked by. The typical offer for the course is AAB. Without wanting to be bigheaded, I felt I deserved a place. I was quite keen on Warwick and wanted to put it as my insurance.

Below are some of the key points of my application:
- GCSE: 8 A*s, 2 A’s
- AS-level: 6 A’s
- 291 UMS for Economics (mentioned on P.S)
- A-levels: Got 2 A’s in Business Studies and General studies (both self-taught) in January.
- Taking A-levels in Maths, Physics, French and Economics, predicted straight A’s.
- Doing AEA Maths and AEA French
- Can speak four languages, three fluently
- Lived abroad for 5 years
- From a state school
- Relevant work experience
- Got offers from Oxford (E&M), Nottingham, Bristol, York and Bath.
- County football player

Do you think I have been discriminated against for being an Oxbridge candidate? And if so do you think this type of discrimination is fair?

I contacted Warwick to ask for feedback and they simply gave me the usual speech about how competitive admissions was this year.

BTW well done to anyone who did get an offer, they were supposedly 3000 applicants for 135 places.


I was rejected for History from both Durham and Warwick despite receiving an offer from Oxford. Although I achieved high As at AS, my GCSEs were slightly lower with 5 A*s and 4As. The GCSE results were in fact cited as too low. It seems unfair that my University admissions should be based on my German and science grades etc. On the other hand, another guy in my set got 4As and B in History but 9 A*s GCSE- he got in to both of the above for History but didn't apply to Oxford. Perhaps GCSEs may be seen as a better indicator of achievement, since so many people get high grades at AS.
Oh well it was brilliant to get an offer from oxford anyway.
Reply 8
sportsman
Do you think I have been discriminated against for being an Oxbridge candidate? And if so do you think this type of discrimination is fair?


It seems likely you were rejected because Warwick guessed you'd go to Oxbridge. I have had an identical experience with Warwick (though for a different subject), so it's not an isolated incident.

Rejecting some impressive applicants makes Warwick courses seem more prestigious because even exceptional candidates are not always offered places. On the other hand, it risks losing the substantial number of excellent candidates who do not receive Oxbridge offers.

It's definitely not fair because it is, at the end of the day, discrimination. But it's not too much of a problem because they only do it for people who they don't think actually want to come.
Reply 9
Ralfskini
I was rejected by four universities who only ask for BBB-CCC despite having good AS grades (5A's). This may be discrimination as I have an offer from cambridge but I dont really have a good insurance choice.


Did you apply for different course at those unis? E.g. Land Economy at Cambridge but Economy or Geography at the other ones?
H&E
Did you apply for different course at those unis? E.g. Land Economy at Cambridge but Economy or Geography at the other ones?



Nope, exactly the same course at each university.
Reply 11
"sportsman" - did you receive an oxbridge offer (just out of interest)
Reply 12
sportsman
I got rejected from Warwick for straight Economics (L100), which I was a bit shocked by. The typical offer for the course is AAB. Without wanting to be bigheaded, I felt I deserved a place. I was quite keen on Warwick and wanted to put it as my insurance.

Below are some of the key points of my application:
- GCSE: 8 A*s, 2 A’s
- AS-level: 6 A’s
- 291 UMS for Economics (mentioned on P.S)
- A-levels: Got 2 A’s in Business Studies and General studies (both self-taught) in January.
- Taking A-levels in Maths, Physics, French and Economics, predicted straight A’s.
- Doing AEA Maths and AEA French
- Can speak four languages, three fluently
- Lived abroad for 5 years
- From a state school
- Relevant work experience
- Got offers from Oxford (E&M), Nottingham, Bristol, York and Bath.
- County football player

Do you think I have been discriminated against for being an Oxbridge candidate? And if so do you think this type of discrimination is fair?

I contacted Warwick to ask for feedback and they simply gave me the usual speech about how competitive admissions was this year.

BTW well done to anyone who did get an offer, they were supposedly 3000 applicants for 135 places.



What floats one unis boat doesn't have the same effect on another. Applications are funny things as you have so little space to sell yourself. As a result one tends to go for emotive language to stand out. Emotive language can impress one person, but get another persons back up. Simple as.

Also, how do you know what the back ground of the other Warwick apps were? It could be that you were not as hot as you assume when compared to the whole pool of applicants. Many people are put off applying to Oxbridge (and incidentally Oxford and Cambs have the lowest number of applicants per place) and so it wouldn't be unheard of for many excellent applicant to have put Warwick on their UCAS form and Not Oxbridge.....

It only takes on offer to get to Uni - concentrate on the ones you do have and get over it! There will be many people reading this with no offers and who would kill to be in your position.
Reply 13
Katie Heskins
"sportsman" - did you receive an oxbridge offer (just out of interest)


Re-read his original post :wink:
Reply 14
Fluffy
Re-read his original post :wink:

a yes would have sufficed ":wink:"
Reply 15
Katie Heskins
a yes would have sufficed ":wink:"


As would doing your research before posting ":wink:" :rolleyes:
Maybe business studies put them off as it would give you the wrong mind set to study degree level economics. Maybe they didn't like your personal statement. Maybe the other candidates had 9, 10 or 11 A*s at GCSE. There are many reasons why someone could get rejected.

Although it was for law I applied to Warwick and Oxford and got accepted at both. Warwick then bombarded me with offers of open days, visits and incentives to come to their University. It would surprise me to find out that their tactics had changed and they weren't trying to attract Oxbridge applicants anymore.

Incidently http://www.timesonline.co.uk/section/0,,6734,00.html Warwick are much higher than Oxford in the Times' league table so maybe this is why you were rejected.
Well it really depends?

If you didn't get an interview from them then it probably does have something to do with discrimination. Not fair, but it's what happened. I got rejected straight off by Durham .... ah well!

If you did get an interview then its probably got soemthing to do with teachability. They don't really care whether you've got 3 A's or 6A's as long as your gonna get 3 or more A's at the end of it. What they want is someone they'll enjoy teaching. If they finished the interview thinking you were: unmotivated, not wanting to go there, an arrogant prick, voting SWP, had no life outside grades or simply overly pretentious for their liking; then the chances are that they're going to reject you!
Reply 18
Tom Holder
Well it really depends?

If you didn't get an interview from them then it probably does have something to do with discrimination. Not fair, but it's what happened. I got rejected straight off by Durham .... ah well!

If you did get an interview then its probably got soemthing to do with teachability. They don't really care whether you've got 3 A's or 6A's as long as your gonna get 3 or more A's at the end of it. What they want is someone they'll enjoy teaching. If they finished the interview thinking you were: unmotivated, not wanting to go there, an arrogant prick, voting SWP, had no life outside grades or simply overly pretentious for their liking; then the chances are that they're going to reject you!


I didn't get interviewed and they very rarely do for economics. They could only differentiate based on academic achievements, personal statement and references. My other offers would indicate that my personal statement and references were good.
Reply 19
I've heard of lots of applicants get rejected at Warwick, Nottingham, LSE, UCL, Bristol even though they have excellent credentials. I can guarentee you there will be applicants who got offers with Bs at AS and at GCSE. With something like PPE it would be obvious you would have applied to Oxbridge. In your case the fact that you have 6 A levels would make it appear like you would stand out from the pack to Oxbridge tutors and are very likely to get an offer from there.
Anyway, you should be over the moon, E&M is possibly the toughest course to get into in the country.