The Student Room Group
Reply 1
Hedgie
What are these? I came across the expression senior wrangler.I believe it's something to do with how well you do in Maths?


Seeing as no-one's answered, I'll have a go. Senior Wrangler, so far as I know, is the person who comes top in the Maths exams at Cambridge (I presume undergrad finals, but I may be wrong). The Wranglers Club, on the other hand, is simply the club of people with First from Cambridge (or so I was told by a member of it anyway).
Reply 2
If i'm not mistaken, anyone who gets a first is called a Wrangler, and there various positions of wrangler (first (senior) wrangler, second, third etc.) I'm not sure if this is just in maths or not... I think it's called a wrangler because traditionally the tripos exams took the form of a 'wrangle' or debate.
Reply 3
Wrangler usually refers to Maths.
In my experience, anyone with a first in Part II (third year) Mathematics is called a "Wrangler" and then the order in which people finished extends the terminology to "Senior Wrangler", "Second Wrangler", "Seventh Wrangler" etc. Someone I met was 33rd Wrangler.

The Cambridge system for maths is inherently competitive. As far as I have understood it, I will not find out my percentage at the end of this (my first) year. I will only find out where I was placed within a class. For instance people last year could assume they were a low first because they were 50th on the list (or something), but theoretically they could have had a very high first but there were forty-nine others who did incredibly well that year.

I believe it is either unique, or within a definite minority of subjects whose results are comparative and not objective.

note: They read out the names of the Wranglers in public from Senate House when the finals results are announced, in order. I'm not sure that this happens for other subjects.
Reply 4
ot209
I believe it is either unique, or within a definite minority of subjects whose results are comparative and not objective.

compsci is comparative, and I think that means that Natsci is too, which ends up as rather a lot of people.

The papers are marked objectively of course, but then the class is ordered by their cumulative score and then the marks are scaled (uniformly I think) so that the top 25% are awarded firsts, then it's 30% below that to get a 2.i, then 35% below that for a 2.ii, then the bottom 10% is thirds and if you're scaled below 0 you get a fail. It's a while since that was explained to me but I think it's just about right.

I don't know about Arts subjects though...

Alaric.
Reply 5
I'm not sure if discovering this was a good thing or a bad thing... :s-smilie:
Reply 6
ot209
Wrangler usually refers to Maths.
In my experience, anyone with a first in Part II (third year) Mathematics is called a "Wrangler" and then the order in which people finished extends the terminology to "Senior Wrangler", "Second Wrangler", "Seventh Wrangler" etc. Someone I met was 33rd Wrangler.


Only refers to Maths I'm sure. The results were (are?) read out in Senate House in reverse order; the lowest pass being awarded a special prize of a wooden spoon (actually more like a hop shovel - about a metre long) engraved with the details of his 'achievement'.
OldMan
Only refers to Maths I'm sure. The results were (are?) read out in Senate House in reverse order; the lowest pass being awarded a special prize of a wooden spoon (actually more like a hop shovel - about a metre long) engraved with the details of his 'achievement'.


I want one!
shame im not doing maths!