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Say a guy never has intercourse with a woman, but has lots of sex with men, but never penetrates a woman, does that mean he is a virgin? Likewise for a woman who never has sex with a man.

If intercourse is defined as penal-vaginal intercourse, surely homosexuals who never experience this are virgins?
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I would say that they technically are.
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Depends on your definition of virginity. It doesn't really exist in a physical and definable way.
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There's a technical definition and then there's a common sense one. I find it ludicrous that some heterosexual couples claim to be virgins even though they practice the everything-but-intercourse philosophy of sex.
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Really? How is he/she a virgin if they've had sex with someone irrespective of gender? :lolwut:
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losing virginity = penis entering vagina.

So technically, yes.
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Virginity definition: the state of never having had sexual intercourse.

Sexual intercourse definition: sexual contact between individuals involving penetration, especially the insertion of a man's erect penis into a woman's vagina, typically culminating in orgasm and the ejaculation of semen.

Doesn't HAVE to be penis in vagina.
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(Original post by bestofyou)
Say a guy never has intercourse with a woman, but has lots of sex with men, but never penetrates a woman, does that mean he is a virgin? Likewise for a woman who never has sex with a man.
Traditionally, virginity referred to women only. A man was not capable of being a virgin, or not. I am unaware of any support for your definition of virgin as it relates to males.

If intercourse is defined as
Under those louche rules, I can define myself as the emperor of Persia.
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(Original post by Maid Marian)
I would say that they technically are.
And what "technical" definition are you using? If you want to be "technical", men are never virgins because traditionally it relates to female chasitity.
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You never heard of gold-star gays?
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And what "technical" definition are you using? If you want to be "technical", men are never virgins because traditionally it relates to female chasitity.
Oh, just that a penis going into a vagina is a loss of virginity ...
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Oh, just that a penis going into a vagina is a loss of virginity ...
Right. The loss of the woman's virginity
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Right. The loss of the woman's virginity
But isn't it the man's loss of virginity too?
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(Original post by Maid Marian)
But isn't it the man's loss of virginity too?
Traditionally, there's no such thing as male virginity. Men aren't virgins because there is no chastity to protect. It's about whether a woman has had a penis in her vagina
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Yes
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(Original post by MostUncivilised)
Traditionally, there's no such thing as male virginity. Men aren't virgins because there is no chastity to protect. It's about whether a woman has had a penis in her vagina
Oh That's interesting.
But clearly in modern society, or at least in TSR, male virginity does exist...
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Oh That's interesting.
But clearly in modern society, or at least in TSR, male virginity doesexist...
And in modern society, a virgin is someone who hasn't had sex. Gay people are able to have sex, therefore they are not axiomatically virgins.

You can't just pick and choose a definition that's "This, but not this". If you use the traditional definition, then male virginity is a contradiction in terms. If you use the modern definition, then clearly gay people who have had sex are not virgins.

The whole topic is puerile
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Since when has virginity ONLY meant "never experienced penis entering a vagina" and excluded any other type of sex? Is this some sex-ed 101 I've missed?
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(Original post by MostUncivilised)
And in modern society, a virgin is someone who hasn't had sex. Gay people are able to have sex, therefore they are not axiomatically virgins.

You can't just pick and choose a definition that's "This, but not this". If you use the traditional definition, then male virginity is a contradiction in terms. If you use the modern definition, then clearly gay people who have had sex are not virgins.

The whole topic is puerile
Well, in my opinion, virginity = not had sexual intercourse :dontknow:
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(Original post by Maid Marian)
Well, in my opinion, virginity = not had sexual intercourse :dontknow:
Then I present to you:

(Original post by manchesterunited15)
Virginity definition: the state of never having had sexual intercourse.

Sexual intercourse definition: sexual contact between individuals involving penetration, especially the insertion of a man's erect penis into a woman's vagina, typically culminating in orgasm and the ejaculation of semen.

Doesn't HAVE to be penis in vagina.
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