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    I doubt it would be illegal, unless on the posters you put 'white's only' where I think that could be breaking the law...
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    Just say youre running a laudromat
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    was the alton towers event advertised as muslims only, or organised for muslims much like a disabled kids day out would be...
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    (Original post by happybob)
    If it is illegal then you better tell the "black police association" http://www.nationalbpa.com/ as well as the "society of asian lawyers" www.societyofasianlawyers.com
    It does say at the top of the screen on the former link the following:

    "The definition of "Black" does not refer to skin colour.

    The emphasis is on the common experience and determination of the people of African, African-Caribbean and Asian origin to oppose the effects of racism."


    So that site has kinda tried to make quite clear that they do not discriminate on the basis of race, though i'm sure they are not obliged to...



    And in response to the original question- I don't think it would be illegal, though i'm not sure how authorities would go about the inevitable complaints- probably from the muslim community or something. There would most likely be a lot of scrutiny into the club, and a lot of media attention...
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    (Original post by DanGrover)
    Because the whole Alton Towers Muslim Day affair was raised on my forums and I mentioned how they were a group, just like any other renting outt he park. A friend of mine said that if a white only group wanted to they couldnt, because their group would be a illegal. I wasn't sure if it was true, thus I asked.
    But compare the two Dan, for example your idea actively suggests the discrimantion of certain people due to factors outside their control.
    The muslim fun day is not. It's open to everyone, so the two are not equivalent even if one stemmed from the root idea of the other.
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    (Original post by shady lane)
    Alton Towers day is not Muslim only. It's Muslim Fun Day--Muslim-themed. Anyone can go. Besides how would they even know if you're Muslim if you attended, Muslims are all races.
    No, you can't. No non muslims will be allowed entry on that day, and staff are to be given specific entry profiles for "whites" who say they are muslim.

    Additionally most HOTELS around the area are becoming muslim ONLY for that day/few days. They will be allowing bookings to muslims only. As its hard to tell whether somebody is a muslim, no doubt this will mean people of darker skin colour only.

    My friend works there, and according to her the staff are considering boycotting the day. However they've been told that if they do, they will lose their jobs.
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    (Original post by Beekeeper)
    And in response to the original question- I don't think it would be illegal, though i'm not sure how authorities would go about the inevitable complaints- probably from the muslim community or something. There would most likely be a lot of scrutiny into the club, and a lot of media attention...
    Why would specifically muslims care about a whites only group?

    To the OP: I think it'd be legal as long as you didn't exclude non-whites. Of couse, they probably wouldn't want to join, so you'd be pretty safe (if that were your intent).

    And I know it was a hypothetical question, and I'm not calling Dan a racist.
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    (Original post by Scheherazade)
    Why would specifically muslims care about a whites only group?

    To the OP: I think it'd be legal as long as you didn't exclude non-whites. Of couse, they probably wouldn't want to join, so you'd be pretty safe (if that were your intent).

    And I know it was a hypothetical question, and I'm not calling Dan a racist.
    I think it'd be legal as long as you didn't exclude non-whites. Of couse, they probably wouldn't want to join, so you'd be pretty safe (if that were your intent).
    Its legal even if you exclude non-whites
    Membership of the British National Party is open to those of British or kindred European ethnic descent. While we welcome contact and co-operation with nationalists and patriots of other races, and with the many non-whites who also oppose enforced multi-racialism, we ask them to respect our right to an organisation of our own, for our own, as we respect and applaud their measures to organise themselves in like fashion.
    http://www.bnp.org.uk/shopping/membership.php
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    (Original post by happybob)
    Its legal even if you exclude non-whites

    http://www.bnp.org.uk/shopping/membership.php
    Really?
    Well, you'd get more complaints.
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    I'm really only interested in the legality, not the pheasability.
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    (Original post by DanGrover)
    I'm really only interested in the legality, not the pheasability.
    It seems like it's legal.
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    (Original post by DanGrover)
    I'm really only interested in the legality, not the pheasability.
    Well the British National Party has had a white-only membership since 1982 and the National Front has been white-only since 1967, so it would seem it's totally legal, otherwise they would have been shut down by now.
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    (Original post by Beekeeper)
    It does say at the top of the screen on the former link the following:

    "The definition of "Black" does not refer to skin colour.

    The emphasis is on the common experience and determination of the people of African, African-Caribbean and Asian origin to oppose the effects of racism."


    So that site has kinda tried to make quite clear that they do not discriminate on the basis of race, though i'm sure they are not obliged to...
    Then they discriminate against Whites, short stack. It's hilarious that they would form an organisation supposedly to oppose racism, then exclude a racial group.

    Anyone have a serious answer about the employment scheme for Young Black Farmers? whether or not it's legal?
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    (Original post by happybob)
    Well the British National Party has had a white-only membership since 1982 and the National Front has been white-only since 1967, so it would seem it's totally legal, otherwise they would have been shut down by now.
    for once i am actually glad you posted. There we go its legal ,so you can go tell your friend.
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    (Original post by ArthurOliver)
    Then they discriminate against Whites, short stack. It's hilarious that they would form an organisation supposedly to oppose racism, then exclude a racial group.

    Anyone have a serious answer about the employment scheme for Young Black Farmers? whether or not it's legal?
    I posted something a page back from the Black Police association that you all "happened' to miss. Their constitution says membership is open to everyone who supports the mission--which is to get more minorities in the police force. I don't see why a white person couldn't support that. Being black is not a prerequisite for membership--look at the constitution yourself.

    In regards to Alton Towers, you must purchase your ticket from Islamic Leisure. BUT I personally went to the site and there is nothing that says "warning: do not click submit with your credit card info if you're not Muslim." It lets anyone log on and pay. The articles said that if you try to buy tickets from Alton Towers they will tell you no. But there is no way that if you buy a ticket online through IL that you will be stopped at the gate--you could certainly sue for that as they've taken your money unfairly in that case.
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    (Original post by ArthurOliver)
    Anyone have a serious answer about the employment scheme for Young Black Farmers? whether or not it's legal?
    Well, the program was meant to intergrate young blacks into predominantly white areas such as farming.its purpose wasnt to divide the two groups. actually, not all of them were blacks,some were mix and others. Is isnt illegal,as its main purpose is to mix the two groups.
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    (Original post by shady lane)
    I posted something a page back from the Black Police association that you all "happened' to miss. Their constitution says membership is open to everyone who supports the mission--which is to get more minorities in the police force. I don't see why a white person couldn't support that. Being black is not a prerequisite for membership--look at the constitution yourself.
    I think that's a far more accurate description of the BPA than any more prominent anti-racist misdirect. I was responding on account of the successful misdirection of Beekeeper.

    sweasy, the program was intended to identify potential in candidates and reward them with a job, but the pool was limited to Blacks, hence the title. I'm just wondering if that's legal - I happen to think it should be, even though it would be (is being) abused by non-Whites at the expense of Whites almost to a totality.

    Tangent again,

    Yes, for the purposes of this program Blacks can be mixed race, but must identify as Black. And if you watched the show you saw the self pity and excuse culture which focus on Blackness inculcates. The prospective conservative MP and the producers who had the stupidity to say that for some of these people this was 'their only chance' should be ashamed - what if the failing candidates believe the hype designed to serve the TV show? I didn't wish those idiot human trash well, but even I wouldn't try to limit their sense of opportunity or self belief.
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    I always notice a magazine in Borders (Black Enterprise - http://www.blackenterprise.com/) and wonder what would happen if someone were to release a White Enterprise magazine. I imagine a lot of people would think it quite ridiculous.

    e.g.
    "Executive Recruiter Directory

    These black-owned firms can help you find the right career fit
    » more"
    - http://www.blackenterprise.com/career/career.asp
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    Well, i seem to find answers for everything,lol.Well,black enterprise isnt for only blacks.anyone can read it.Also its main purpose is to educate the black community about their history,relations and so fourth.History and stuff like that are not taught to blacks living abroad(hence the need to educate,via magazines).Publishing a white only magazine would be ridiculous unless everyone is allowed to read.Theres many mags with only white pics and theres nothing wrong wiv it.
    The Black Farmers things is a bit controversial,however, we all know that the farming sector is predominantly white, so white not give blacks the chance to experience farming?(well, why not asians?lol)
 
 
 
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