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    *******s. The priority for us must be central midfield, so why is everyone getting jumped up over Carlos Tevez? We have five strikers (if you count Giuseppe Rossi) of some quality, and while only Wayne Rooney can be described as world class, I believe that Alan Smith and Louis Saha can recapture their best form at this stage of their careers (indeed Saha is well on his way), and Rossi will almost certainly get more minutes at the top level to reach his potential.

    If we have to make one and only one signing it should be a central midfielder who specialises in winning the ball and winning midfield, and can give us the best years of his career. With that in mind I would be quite happy with bringing in Javier Mascherano in principle, particularly as we already have one Argentine at the club who can help him settle.
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    Id love Mascherano, a player once described by Maradona as 'a monster of a player'. Tevez would also be a wonderful acquisition. If it did happen then I can see Rossi going to Sunderland then.
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    (Original post by SOUNDBWOY)
    Id love Mascherano, a player once described by Maradona as 'a monster of a player'. Tevez would also be a wonderful acquisition. If it did happen then I can see Rossi going to Sunderland then.
    Yeh definitely, loaning him out would do him good, the reserves is far too easy for him...scoring goals for fun there!
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    (Original post by mancred)
    i think if we signed both tevez and mascherano we woud be laughing, and our squad would be close to every bit as good as chelsea's, however, reality and hope are a very different thing. From the media speculation it appears that tevez has expressed more of an interest in joining united than any other club, i dont know about mascherano. The only thing that concerns me is how close we are to the deadline without any apparant steps being made, usually by this stage you have photographs of players visiting clubs and medicals underway, but there appears to be nothing. Another major concern which has been a problem for united for some time now is that the attraction of a london based club is often enough to seduce players as oposed to a city based in the north. I realistically think we will sign tevez out of the two, but at this stage its hard to separate the truth from the *******s.
    Tevez has expressed a desire to play for Man Utd, whilst Mascherano would be guaranteed a starting place in our team if he joined.

    Both players play for the same club and both players share an agent. Their agent is in London today and tomorrow discussing Tevez’ transfer, but it’s anyone’s guess who he’ll end up with.

    Now, Chelsea really do not need another midfielder. Mascherano isn’t going to go to a club where you have Makalele, Essien, Lampard, Obi Mikel, Maniche, etc, etc, etc competing against you. If he came to us, he’d be guaranteed a starting place.

    I hope we get both, but I’m really not holding my breath.
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    rossi should have been loaned long before now, he needs to develop and as mentioned the reserves is not the place to do it
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    (Original post by martynwilliams)
    Tevez has expressed a desire to play for Man Utd, whilst Mascherano would be guaranteed a starting place in our team if he joined.

    Both players play for the same club and both players share an agent. Their agent is in London today and tomorrow discussing Tevez’ transfer, but it’s anyone’s guess who he’ll end up with.

    Now, Chelsea really do not need another midfielder. Mascherano isn’t going to go to a club where you have Makalele, Essien, Lampard, Obi Mikel, Maniche, etc, etc, etc competing against you. If he came to us, he’d be guaranteed a starting place.

    I hope we get both, but I’m really not holding my breath.
    Maniche was released from Chelsea..i think Atletico Madrid have signed him now....
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    (Original post by #2(Laika))
    Maniche was released from Chelsea..i think Atletico Madrid have signed him now....
    Oh!

    Shows my level of interest in the affairs of FC Chelski!
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    who do you reckon we will get laika, if anyone?
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    Ah how nice would signing Mascherano and Tevez be! I still think that Tevez will go somewhere other than United, but I can't believe we forgot about Mascherano when all the Hargreaves malarky was going on, a quality player who seems unhappy with life at Corinthians and someone who surely can't pick Chelsea over us because of their already stupid amount of world-class midfielders.
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    And thanks Bex for the rep, I would have liked another goal or two in the Watford game too! But I'll settle with predicting it right :p:

    Up to 5 shiny gems now though
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    i think theres a possibility we will sign one of them
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    Window Slams Shut on Gill
    Article by The Editor

    With the news filtering through today that United will not sign their principal transfer target, Owen Hargreaves, the transfer window has not so much closed for United as slammed shut with a thunderous crash. Hargreaves confirmed this morning via his agent that he will not be allowed to join the Reds, with his club Bayern asserting their right to determine the future for a player under contract to them for another four years.

    The Hargreaves news comes on top of claims that the club had finally faced up its paucity of striking options by making a for David Trezeguet of Juventus. United's £10m offer was apparently dismissed with contempt by the Old Lady, who are not thought to be willing to release any more of their star names. To complete the triple whammy the grapevine rumours surrounding Carlos Tevez suggest that it will be Chelsea and not United to whom the South America pledges his allegiance this week.

    While United has two further days to complete their transfer activity it is thought highly unlikely that the club has any viable alternate options in place. Having burnt their bridges with Marcos Senna, United would have to turn to players previously dismissed as not good enough for the club - Jean Macoun or Aldo Duscher - if they are to bring in midfield reinforcements. Options in striking areas appear even less viable with Fernando Torres committed to Atletico Madrid for the foreseeable future. Indeed, the failure to land a direct replacement for Keane or Ruud van Nistelrooy must bring into question United's strategy this summer. A number of questions must be answered by the board:

    Why has the club been drawn into yet another embarrassing transfer saga played out in the media?
    The pursuit of Owen Hargreaves was always doomed to failure once Bayern decided to dig their heals in and refuse United's offer. The Munich giants are not Fulham or Spurs - United cannot bully their way into acquiring a player even if the man in question wants to move. In fact, United's belligerence in pursuing Hargreaves through the media despite Bayern's intransigence almost certainly hardened the Germans' attitude towards a transfer. Chelsea may be able to buy whomever they want from whomever they want but the Reds can't - and quite clearly United's final offer for the England international was not compelling enough to pursueded the German champions to part company with their Canadian-born English international. The German's can rightly point to the fact that United has spent £18.6m on Hargreaves' international understudy, Michael Carrick. United weren't prepared to go that high for Hargreaves, instead focussing on encouraging the player to talk his way out of Munich. It's a tactic that might work for Real Madrid, but clearly not for the Reds.

    Why did United fail to keep their promise of completing all transfer business before the World Cup?
    Back in May Managing Director David Gill promised that United would conclude all transfer business before the tournament in Germany kicked off. Why this was promise broken - and whether there was ever any intention to stick to it is now a moot point of course but an important one to answer. In principal it was a sound strategy - strike before targeted players could price themselves out of the market with strong tournaments. But Sir Alex' confession this week that United had wanted to bring Hargreaves to the club even before his stellar performances in Germany begs the obvious question - why wasn't a bid lodged? The claims are mutually exclusive. Somebody is lying - but was it Gill or Ferguson?

    Why did United pay more than £18m for a player with one international cap in competitive matches?
    Ferguson claims that United always has to pay more than other clubs. But why should they? The fact is United's spending on Carrick does not sit well with the £8m that Arsenal paid for Thomas Rosicky, the similar sum Bayern spent on Mark van Bommel this week or the £3m spent by Real Madrid on the Brazilian defensive midfielder Emerson. Nor, indeed, with the £2.5m that Spurs paid for the player just two seasons ago! Carrick may turn out to be an excellent player for United but right now he's looks like a very expensive one.

    Why did Sir Alex Ferguson claim to be waiting for the outcome of the Italian match-fixing trial, only to fail to bid for any players?
    Emerson, Ibrahimovich, Cannavaro, Thuram and Zambrotta have all left Turin but not a single bid for a player affected by the scandal was made until today. Ibrahimovich even joined Inter, who has not won a trophy of note in a decade. Was it simply a ruse by the United manager to placate fans hungry for new signings, or a smokescreen intended to mis-direct attention while the club sought other targets? Either way United has not sprung into Italian-based transfer action!

    Why did United sign a seventh professional goalkeeper, but bizarrely on loan? Who's getting the backhander?
    Going into this summer United had Edwin van der Sar, Tim Howard, Ron Robert Zieler, Luke Steele, Thomas Heaton and Ben Foster on professional contracts at the club. Why did the club decide to bring in yet another international 'keeper at a time when negotiations are ongoing with van der Sar to extend his stay at the club until 2009? Even more strangely: why did the protracted negotiations end with United loaning Kuscak until 2007 and then apparently signing the player permanently only in the summer? Weird isn't the word.

    Did United really submit more than 20 low bids for players across Europe including Didier Zokora and Dimitar Berbatov who ended up at Spurs?
    Both players claimed that United had offered them contracts? Were the club out-muscled in the transfer market by lowly Spurs - a club without Champions League football? It would appear so. More to the point why did United think that continually bidding low for players is any kind of sensible transfer strategy. Players, any players, will do apparently.

    Does United actually have any money for transfers ... the club is one of the few in the Premiership to be net sellers this summer? £23m recouped in transfer fees for van Nistelrooy, Obi Mikel and Spector. £14m (rising to £18.6m) spent on Michael Carrick, nothing yet on Thomas Kuscak. The club has apparently made bids for David Trazeguet and Owen Hargreaves but not at levels that have even tickled the fancy of their respective clubs. Was the board ever serious about landing these targets?

    And most importantly ... Did the club ever have a coherent transfer strategy or was it made up as we went along?
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    I have to agree with the above article in some ways. Gill promised us a 'world-class signing'. No offence but you cant expect the fans not have their hopes up david!
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    The above article is sadly true. i think Utd may sign just one more player i feel that Tevez and Mascherano could be the pieces to the missing jigsaw. I think they would be money well spent as we are looking a bit weak up front and in the middle. Nevertheless i trust SAF 100% and he must be upto something!
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    RONALDO: UNITED MY 'IDEAL' CLUB

    Cristiano Ronaldo insists Manchester United remain his 'ideal' club, with the winger refuting suggestions his World Cup histrionics could have drawn a line under his Old Trafford career.

    The winger's controversial involvement in club-mate Wayne Rooney's red card for England against Portugal ensured he would be in for a hostile reception from Premiership supporters on his return to English soil.

    More importantly the incident with Old Trafford idol Rooney also cast doubt over his future in Manchester.

    But the single-minded star claims he is unperturbed by the speculation - and, in any case, he has no intention of leaving The Premiership, after riding out the catcalls.

    "I knew I'd be whistled as soon as I put a foot on the pitch at Charlton, but I faced the game in a very calm way," he told www.gestifute.com.

    "I won't give any importance to the whistles of the insults.

    "Throughout my career, I have always defended - in any circumstances - my country.

    "It could be that my best friends play for other teams, but firstly I will defend my country and my shirt.

    "Secondly, what happened was absolutely normal - and I think any player who was in the same situation would have done the same."

    Ronaldo, who was strongly linked with a move to Valencia during the close season, admits a move to La Liga could still appeal in the future, but, for now, he is focused on United.

    "It's true I'm moving, but I've moved house every year in Manchester," he said.

    "Manchester are the ideal club for me. It is true that I said one day I would like to play in Spain. But if that doesn't happen, it won't be a problem.

    "I still feel very happy."
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    BARWCIK COOLS ROONEY ROW

    FA chief executive Brian Barwick has insisted that he does understand Manchester United's frustration at Wayne Rooney's suspension.

    The striker was handed a three-game ban after being sent off in a pre-season friendly, and an appeal by the club was rejected by the FA's independent disciplinary commission.

    Rooney and The Red Devils feel they have been harshly treated, as they claim they were given assurances by the FA that the ban would not be upheld.

    Agent Paul Stretford even said that Rooney could refuse to be part of any future commercial agreements with the England squad.

    Barwick, who has stayed silent so far, has now admitted that he can empathise with United, although he also feels the time is right to move on.

    "If the referee's report comes into this building from that game then we have to act on it," he told BBC Radio Five Live.

    "Manchester United put an appeal in, our independent disciplinary commission turned down that appeal.

    "I can understand the context of Manchester United's disappointment but we have to move on."

    Sir Bobby Charlton believes that Rooney is such a special player that he deserves to be given more protection.

    "He's a marvellous talent, and the game has to do its best to protect him," said Charlton in the foreword to forthcoming book 'The Boy Wonders: Wayne Rooney, Duncan Edwards and the changing face of football' (quoted in the Daily Telegraph).

    "We at Manchester United will definitely protect him.

    "He's got the right character for our game, and I feel sorry for him when he goes too far.

    "He'll learn. It's happened to lots and lots of players, though never with the spotlight as bright as it is today.

    "But I don't worry about Wayne Rooney at all. I only feel sorry for myself when I can't see him, because he's a marvellous player, a potentially great player."
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    UNITED AT DEAD END IN PURSUIT OF HARGREAVES

    MANCHESTER United face a race against time to sign the reinforcements they want before tomorrow evening’s transfer deadline after reluctantly abandoning their pursuit of Owen Hargreaves, whose presence at their training ground today will be a case of “so near, yet so far”.

    Hargreaves will join his England team-mates in training at United’s Carrington headquarters this afternoon, but his planned £17 million move to Old Trafford appears to have been blocked by Bayern Munich. His agent, Roman Grill, said yesterday that there is “no chance” of the move happening until January at the earliest and, while the player and Sir Alex Ferguson, the United manager, retain a slight hope things could change over the next 24 hours, the United board have all but conceded defeat.

    It leaves Ferguson facing defeat in his bid to sign the world-class defensive midfield player that was his priority when the transfer window opened. He was said to be exploring numerous options yesterday, but this apparently no longer includes Javier Mascherano, whose future will be discussed by Corinthians officials with their owners, MSI, in London today. United are not thought to be among the contenders for the Argentinian’s signature.

    It is feasible that Ferguson’s pursuit of Hargreaves will extend to the January transfer window, 12 months after he made an initial tentative inquiry, but other targets are being considered before tomorrow’s deadline, with Nigel Reo-Coker, the West Ham United captain, and Aldo Duscher, of Deportivo La Coruña, two of the names being mentioned.There remains the possibility that United could still buy a centre forward, but David Trezeguet, of Juventus, is said to be only a secondary target, with Ferguson pondering other options. A loan deal for the France forward would be considered, but a permanent transfer is unlikely at the £15 million asking price.

    Meanwhile, Edwin van der Sar, the Holland goalkeeper, has said that he hopes to play for United for at least one more year beyond the end of his contract, which expires in June.
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    RONALDO: UNITED MY 'IDEAL' CLUB

    Cristiano Ronaldo insists Manchester United remain his 'ideal' club, with the winger refuting suggestions his World Cup histrionics could have drawn a line under his Old Trafford career.

    The winger's controversial involvement in club-mate Wayne Rooney's red card for England against Portugal ensured he would be in for a hostile reception from Premiership supporters on his return to English soil.

    More importantly the incident with Old Trafford idol Rooney also cast doubt over his future in Manchester.

    But the single-minded star claims he is unperturbed by the speculation - and, in any case, he has no intention of leaving The Premiership, after riding out the catcalls.

    "I knew I'd be whistled as soon as I put a foot on the pitch at Charlton, but I faced the game in a very calm way," he told www.gestifute.com.

    "I won't give any importance to the whistles of the insults.

    "Throughout my career, I have always defended - in any circumstances - my country.

    "It could be that my best friends play for other teams, but firstly I will defend my country and my shirt.

    "Secondly, what happened was absolutely normal - and I think any player who was in the same situation would have done the same."

    Ronaldo, who was strongly linked with a move to Valencia during the close season, admits a move to La Liga could still appeal in the future, but, for now, he is focused on United.

    "It's true I'm moving, but I've moved house every year in Manchester," he said.

    "Manchester are the ideal club for me. It is true that I said one day I would like to play in Spain. But if that doesn't happen, it won't be a problem.

    "I still feel very happy."
    aww! what a sweet heart!
    how about when he scored the 5th (last) penalty kick in england vs portugal?? without his patriotic personality it would have been "angel vs devil, to score or not to score" going on in his mind!
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    (Original post by lebanon4ever)
    aww! what a sweet heart!
    how about when he scored the 5th (last) penalty kick in england vs portugal?? without his patriotic personality it would have been "angel vs devil" going on in his mind!
    :p:
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    I just hope we can sign someone today. for example, our next 3 games, we cant play carrick and scholes again and again they will become tired. we need different options. I cant see us getting mascherano. Maybe duscher is a possiblity
 
 
 
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