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Hi guys, I got back from Cranwell three weeks ago having applied for administration officer. I passed the interview, aptitude and medical but properly messed up on the bleep test and so couldnt take part in phase two. When I had my phase one interview, the wing commander said he could see that I was fit enough but i just didnt do it properly and told me to reapply straight away.

The problem ive got it that no one can tell me how long I have to wait before I can reapply. The AFCOs in my area have said that they do not deal with the RAF and the Squadron Leader who has put me through interviews is away on holiday for another 2 weeks. Does anyone know what the procedure is? Will I have to wait a year or a few month? Thanks
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I don't think that anyone can answer that question really. You can fail OASC for quite a variety of reasons and with each reason comes a different approach to reapplication. Not all AFCOs do deal with the RAF, so I imagine the best course of action would be to get your fitness up asap. If you can't speak to the Sqn Ldr, then phone OASC and ask them directly.

Don't lose heart though. Fitness is easily fixable.
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As Blackhawk says the waiting times depend on what you failed on. Friend of mine got told to reapply in a year because he didnt have "enough life experience". The year wait seems to apply for major things like that (or people who need major attitude adjustments, going by your post that certainly isn't you!)

The average seems to be between 3-6 months. For fitness (I freely admit i dont work at Cranwell or have indepth knowledge of OASC procedures) I would have thought you would fall into that banding, its also worth remembering the issue of fitting you into OASC, when I had to cancel mine because of a holiday the earliest one they could give me was a month later!)

Is it possible to contact another AFCO and explain to them your situation and ask for guidence? Also most careers officers have an admin assistant who might be able to help, do you know if yours does? Finally I noticed the RAF careers website has a contact number, 0845 605 5555 (unclassified lol) perhaps give them a call and see if they can help.

All the best with it.

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I was fit enough but i just didnt do it properly and told me to reapply straight away.
How do you mean you didnt do it properly? Did they tell you where you went wrong on it?
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Stop flapping. Even if you are told you can re-apply straight away, you know from the system that you have seen already that that is likely to mean a couple of months wait to get a place back on OASC. In which case, waiting 2 weeks for the Sqn Ldr contact to return is nothing significant. In the mean time, use the downloads on here and sort out your bleep test technique!
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(Original post by GritChimpMk1)
The year wait seems to apply for major things like that or people who need major attitude adjustments
Ahhh so that's what it was! :p:
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Umm... forgive me if I'm being dense... but surely if the officer there told you to 'Reapply straight away' then you can apply straight away? Otherwise wouldn't he have 'told' you how long you had to wait? :confused:
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but straight away in the RAF oftne means about 6 plus months later...
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Ahh should have guessed... Thought I was being dense.
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(Original post by StaVix)
but straight away in the RAF oftne means about 6 plus months later...

Only 6months later?? They must have been kind to you
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My understanding is that you can only attend OASC once in any period of 12 months...at my second time at OASC I met someone who'd been there the first time too...we'd both reapplied as soon as we could, and were given OASC dates 12 months and 1 week after the previous time!

Good Luck
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Only 6months later?? They must have been kind to you
lol Thats being optimistic, it was more like 18 mths for me between OASC dates but thats a longer story... I guess you could do it in 6 from walking though the door to rocking up at OASC, if your lucky.
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The OP needs to be more specific about what went wrong in the bleep test, if s/he failed on something technical, like failing to cross the line consistently, but otherwise seemed fit enough, it is quite possible that OASC have some H&SW thing such that you can only do one bleep test per day, but they can ask you to some back and do another bleep test quite quickly. The issue might be fitting you in for Phase Two, but even then, given the variable failure rates in each cadre between Phase One and Phase Two, this should not be too difficult.

It probably comes down to whether you failed for some reason that time will correct, ie lack of fitness, or something that was a one off (losing a contact lens mid run, failing to cross the line repeatedly etc). If tiem will improve, then it will take time to get back there, look for 6-12 months. If it was a genuine one-off, then look to fit back into the bleep test and Phase Two in the next month or so.

The bottom line is, an online forum with no recent OASC staff on it, and only a rough idea of the problem, simply cannot offer an accurate answer. The OP is best waiting until his/her Recruitment contact comes back to get a properly useful answer.
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by the time i went up for my part 2 med, a girl i met at my original afco presentation had been to oasc, failed, reapplied and was there again. she must have been able to go back almost straight away.....
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I think Stringy P went back to finish off Part 2 of OASC as he had some sort of problem with the bleep test. Cant remember what he said happened tho. Best to ask him, I guess...
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I think Stringy P went back to finish off Part 2 of OASC as he had some sort of problem with the bleep test. Cant remember what he said happened tho. Best to ask him, I guess...
Not sure about Stingy P but that happened to me. Are you getting confused Romper cause the 3 of us were there together?!
I went for OASC and had a stomach upset which had been playing up on and off for a few days and caused me to be sick during the bleep test (nice!) At first they wanted to tell me I couldnt go through to part 2 and that I would have to leave and completely reapply in 1 year. They said in the initial briefing at OASC we were told what to do in the event of illness. When I told the guy that we hadnt had an 'initial briefing' and the first time we saw an officer was AFTER the bleep test so I had no chance to tell them I was feeling a little unwell but was willing to have a go anyway, he changed his tune and allowed me to go back to OASC at my convenience. They didnt say all of this until about 9am on the second day after the bleep test, and luckily for me, this was after my interview! If I'd been in a later interview slot I would've missed it as I would've already been sent home.
Anyway, I went back to OASC a couple of months later, did the fitness test again, sat and watched everyone else stress over their interview knowing I'd already passed mine, and then went onto part 2. Then came the April sift etc etc and now i'm into IOT4.
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(Original post by Romper)
I think Stringy P went back to finish off Part 2 of OASC as he had some sort of problem with the bleep test. Cant remember what he said happened tho. Best to ask him, I guess...
Oi, I rocked at the bleep test, get out of here cheeky!

I only had Pilot and WSO on my application, but was found medically unfit for aircrew - I had passed part 1 but had no branches left on my application . It was recommended that I go away and think about if I wanted to add any branches to my application (which I did), and as such I had to go away, tell my AFCO, and then go back to finish OASC (2 months later).
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Alright you two, calm down. I did get you confused, which I admit is bad seeing as one is boy, one is girl, etc. It was a confusing/stressful time of my life when I met you.

Stringy, I should have known you would cruise on your MSFT. Blue, I forgot your woes on the MSFT, but I knew there was someone that they let go back "at their convnience"! Either way, you both deserve to be on IOT 4, cos you both rock!!! LOL
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Either way, you both deserve to be on IOT 4, cos you both rock!!! LOL
For that, I think both Stringy and I can forgive you!!
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I'm just taking comfort in the fact he'll have to salute us one day :p:
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