Hi, I have a question.
I often finish work late (after midnight), behind our work is a huge car park with nothing else around it for a couple of miles, so after work we often race each other around, skid etc. Anyway, last night, around 3am, we were messing around and I did a wheelspin, turned the corner and there was a police car there! I was going at a reasonable speed but on the left side of the road, the police car was in the middle of the road forcing me to do an emergency stop to avoid me missing it. The 2 police came out and started having a go at me. I told them that it was a private place owned by my company, with no chance of noise pollution, so I had every right to drive however I liked.
The police said that the Road Traffic Act applied even in car parks, which I'm sure isn't right! Anyway, they tried to find something unroadworthy on my car but couldn't cause I check it really carefully every week, then asked me if I'd been drinking (of course not), then let me go. They didn't give me any tickets etc so I guess they knew they were in the wrong and were just trying to scare me - police in Oxford are well know for being corrupt as hell and using lying and bullying to get their way. That said, I don't want them to check back next week and lose my license. Stupid police, picking on drivers all the time!
Oh, and I never do skids etc on normal roads, the reason why I do them in the car park is because it is deserted and so totally safe, and I'd always figured legal too.
General rule is that any area accessible to the public and marked out with lane markings etc. comes under "highway", public owned or otherwise. Hence most car parks and toll roads etc.. I am not sure if another law covers areas that aren't like that but I expect anything to endanger others would be, also your employer might not be happy to know it is happening.
Popa Dom on this site is famed for being caught having a whizz in a car park.
A kid walking through a private carpark at 3am probably has more things to worry about that somebody doing a few wheel spins.
"Finally, cruisers should be reminded that retail car parks are classed as roads for the purposes of the Road Traffic Act and this means that instances of Careless or Dangerous driving can and will be reported."
Thats from the West Lothian police.
yeah but cruisers use public car parks!!
next time get a letter from management at work saying you are permitted to be on this property and nobody else is!!! police will need a warrent then to go on the PRIVATE car park lol
They tried it on us at work once before (tesco when they were shut) they didn't have a leg to stand on and we told them to get off the property...... they went with there tails between there legs lol
Thats ALOT of paperwork, chances are if you put up a fight and show that it will be hard work for the police to get a conviction they will bugger of and try and find an easier catch...on the motorway at 3am in the morning, for example!
Come on guys, think realistically! What would you rather do, argue with some guys on private land or catch a driver doing 110mph on the motorway and get him/her chucked of the road, despite it probably being perfectly safe. Traffic cops are no doubtedly going to go for the latter as its easier to prosecute and to prove!
If the police said it, it's probably true.....If not, they'll arrest you anyway.
Whilst it might seem like a good idea telling the police their jobs (how would you feel if someone who had no real idea what they are talking about told you how to do yours?), perhaps you should seek legal advice on the matter as opposed to asking on a forum?? They may not normally do something due to paperwork etc, but if you wind them up, the paperwork could well suddenly become worth it....
On a seperate note, how do insurance companies view messing around and racing on private land???