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It makes me so mad to hear things about how young people are living comfortably on benefits, saying they apply to job after job with no luck. pff, yeah right.

I personally think that in the vast majority of cases it's complacency, and they are lazy.

I believe that in most cases, they are very comfortable doing nothing at all and getting paid for it, as they lack the ambition and motivation to get out and make something of themselves. Unfortunately, in the area where I have been brought up, this is often the case.

The social implications of this are that as they have no targets or aims, they turn to antisocial activity, or otherwise contribute nothing to society. People talk about a lack of social mobility, and to an extent I believe this to be true, however in most cases there is always an opportunity to make something of yourself, and for most of these young people, they threw that away by not educating themselves.

Of course I understand that this isn't the case for everyone, please don't accuse me of stereotyping, but this is what I've seen and experienced.

I have been able to find employment since the age of 15, all it takes is motivation. If we were to provide that motivation by restricting benefits to those who can otherwise work, I think they would quickly busy themselves in order to maintain their tax payer funded income. This would be providing them with the perfect opportunity to better themselves.

Should the government run schemes where young people on benefits need to attend classes to gain qualifications, or giving them a job which is funded by the government, in order to get their benefits?

I think this would really show who is actually prepared to work for money, compared to those who choose the "easy life" at the expense of the tax payer.

Is my thinking a extreme, or unreasonable?
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Unless people genuinely can't a job for a good enough reason and simply don't work purely out of laziness, then I think they should either be given government funded jobs, or have their benefits cut.
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We need a good purge. (Non violent)

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Yet another attack on young unemployed people of this country! This kind of thing is beyond contempt:

It makes me so mad to hear things about how young people are living comfortably on benefits, saying they apply to job after job with no luck. pff, yeah right. ....I personally think that in the vast majority of cases it's complacency, and they are lazy....I believe that in most cases, they are very comfortable doing nothing at all and getting paid for it, as they lack the ambition and motivation to get out and make something of themselves. Unfortunately, in the area where I have been brought up, this is often the c


We don't care what you believe because what you believe is not accurate or true. It's like reading vile comments from the dailymail (uncapitalised).
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It's not just a problem with the uneducated youth.

Many of my friends who have graduated from University refuse to undertake certain jobs because they deem them to be "beneath them" - they should grab opportunities whilst they can.
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(Original post by Martyn*)
Yet another attack on young unemployed people of this country! This kind of thing is beyond contempt:

It makes me so mad to hear things about how young people are living comfortably on benefits, saying they apply to job after job with no luck. pff, yeah right. ....I personally think that in the vast majority of cases it's complacency, and they are lazy....I believe that in most cases, they are very comfortable doing nothing at all and getting paid for it, as they lack the ambition and motivation to get out and make something of themselves. Unfortunately, in the area where I have been brought up, this is often the c


We don't care what you believe because what you believe is not accurate or true. It's like reading vile comments from the dailymail (uncapitalised).
Ok, so what is the truth in your eyes?
Not all members of TSR are socialist arsewipes
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I agree with some of what you said, but not everyone is lazy and realistically there aren't that many jobs out there for everyone to be employed.
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Ok, so what is the truth in your eyes?
Not all members of TSR are socialist arsewipes
The OP suggested that vast amounts of unemployed people were simply too lazy to find work. This is not true. There is a small minority who don't have the motivation for whatever reasons they may have. For some they are not ready to work and for some they just don't have a choice; the opportunities for employment are just not there. In addition, many of the jobs on offer are low paid, long hours and soul-destroying work, and in fact they may find themselves worse off by working when you factor-in the cost of travel and meals at work.

What I am trying to say is that there are many reasons why people are unemployed. In the end if someone is lazy you cannot beat them with a stick! If they don't want to work what difference does it make to you? What possible care could you have that a few people are at home and cannot be bothered to find a job? I should think it means nothing to you. Your vitriol against these people is either bitter spite or just trolling.
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No.

But what is better then earning through your own hard work. The satisfaction that you earned it and didn't take it from someone else who might have needed it more than you....
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(Original post by Martyn*)
The OP suggested that vast amounts of unemployed people were simply too lazy to find work. This is not true. There is a small minority who don't have the motivation for whatever reasons they may have. For some they are not ready to work and for some they just don't have a choice; the opportunities for employment are just not there. In addition, many of the jobs on offer are low paid, long hours and soul-destroying work, and in fact they may find themselves worse off by working when you factor-in the cost of travel and meals at work.

What I am trying to say is that there are many reasons why people are unemployed. In the end if someone is lazy you cannot beat them with a stick! If they don't want to work what difference does it make to you? What possible care could you have that a few people are at home and cannot be bothered to find a job? I should think it means nothing to you. Your vitriol against these people is either bitter spite or just trolling.
Indeed, as long as they're off the streets, I'm happy.
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how can you force someone to work?
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you should be more angry about corporate tax avoidance and monopolies alongside off shore bank accounts.
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how can you force someone to work?
the whip!

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the whip!

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not in this country, not in a million years....
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forcing someone to work would be slavery but I do agree they should be encouraged a bit more
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I was offered a good well paying job once but it would have cost me a lot to move city. So i choseto stay unemployed and continue looking.
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I have to say it does sadden me when people who are perfectly capable to work, decide to sit at home and rake in the benefits, the worst thing is when some of them complain that are not getting enough benefits.
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We need a good purge. (Non violent)

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yeah, of the vile right who cause all these problems.
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How is living on benefits even remotely close to being 'comfortable'. Damn, you can barely scrape by on a decent diet on that much money. :\
Getting work or some form of regular (and hopefully higher) income should be on the top priorities for young people.
The issue here is that most jobs offered for untrained people are minimum wage, and some areas of the UK just do not have enough jobs to employ young people.
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yeah, of the vile right who cause all these problems.
Lets wipe both left and right out.

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