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Alasdair
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Hmm, actually this thread isn't the place for a discussion of freedom. I'll post a separate one, so it doesn't get off-topic. Un moment.
Good idea. I'll repost in there in a minute.
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Here.
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Utter nonsense btw.
twas my attempt at irony though.
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Is your name really James Epsilon?
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twas my attempt at irony though.
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This may not encourage 'sinful' behaviour, but it's people in fear for their lives. Sharia KLaw is too harsh, fact!
As i've said many a time, Shari'ah is a legal system. The main purpose of a ciminal legal system is to punish wrongdoers (Even the UK's criminal legal system) The punishments are entirely upto the system in question and they server their purpose. IIRC, the punishment for treason was capital punishment in the UK till 1996.

Also, the bit that you think it's harsh doesn't make it a fact. The fact that many people subject themselves to (willingly) live under it is testimony enough to that.
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I dont know, if you live in an islamic state you do have freedom, you have the freedom to tie semtex to your body and blow up anyone who does not believe in what you believe in, you have the freedom to treat women like slaves, the freedom to immigrate to other countries who have a liberal benefit systems.

So I think Islam does not curtail all freedoms.
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With all these conversation about Islam, I am wondering whatever happened to Giordano?
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There are two types of freedom; freedom to and freedom from.
In the west it seems that freedom to is much more important to people than freedom from.
Sharia law is to protect people from committing what they see as sins. With less religious devotion in the west, people do not want/need this protection so prefer to be able to do what they want ie. freedom to.

Also England is based on religious law which is very similar to Sharia law, afterall Christianity and Islam have far more in common than they have differences.
Thou shalt not kill
Thou shalt not steal
Aren't these the 10 commandments that apply to nearly every world religion?
Until the early 1990's it was still illegal to be a homosexaual man.. law was passed in i think 1992 that made anal sex permissible.
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(Original post by bigrico)
I dont know, if you live in an islamic state you do have freedom, you have the freedom to tie semtex to your body and blow up anyone who does not believe in what you believe in, you have the freedom to treat women like slaves, the freedom to immigrate to other countries who have a liberal benefit systems.

So I think Islam does not curtail all freedoms.
Technically no, if you actually bother to read something of proper substance you'd understand that murder is (IIRC) a capital crime under the Shari'ah law so your first point becomes redundant.

The second - Some women actually then like the slavery. Bit of a fallacy if it really was slavery then, isn't it? :rolleyes: Look back in history, you'll find that Islamic states were among the first to actually denote proper rights to women.

Third point - Same with any other citizen, and vice versa. There are non-muslims living in Saudi for example. The same way i'm muslim and live in Sri Lanka, a majority Buddhist country. Does it matter much? No. If at all the main source of conflict comes from ethnic tension between the LTTE and other parties. Which hardly comprise of muslims.
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