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    (Original post by o0MorseyMan0o)
    W/salam

    yes i was just going to say that.... but i backed off because I got a little confused there... thinking that maybe the 7 skies will later be the 7 heavens .... but it seems that there's no hadith saying that..... but about the darajat yes you're correct

    jazakullah kol kheir

    (You talk arabic .. u must)
    Agreed that perhaps it's all one big "heaven" but i definitely think it's got 7 levels to it.

    Why would it mean "sky" but then say "heaven" in the Qur'an? The verses i quoted... Surely all the learned people i've listened to couldn't have got it wrong...?
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    Right lemme get this straight, there are 7 hells, 7 skies and EIGHT heavens?!?!

    Does it come down to how good you were in this lifetime and then get put into whatever level of heaven or hell is appropriate?
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    (Original post by The Green Manalishi)
    Why would it mean "sky" but then say "heaven" in the Qur'an?
    The Quran makes it very clear that it is either the sky or heaven it is referring to..

    When there is mention of the skies the Quran always says there are seven levels to it, whereas when speaking about heaven the Quran never gives a specific number of its levels..
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    I have just had a look at the verses you quoted..

    Actually in the Quran (in Arabic) there is a clear-cut distinction between skies and heavens... in all the verses you quoted the Arabic equivalent to the word "heavens" is skies (samawat) not heavens (jinan, which is the correct translation of the word heavens) .. God says that the sky has got seven levels, and this idea recurs many times in the Quran.. when speaking about heaven itself, however, no mention of the number of levels is ever made in the Quran..
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    Evening Star just out of curiousity are older than me?
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    I am definitely older than you..

    please do not ask me how old I am :doh: ..

    just kidding, of course..

    I am in my late twenties.. :flutter:

    Oh God! I am really getting old.. :bawling:
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    Woooo...oh sorry *secretly woo's*

    Late 20's isn't old....honestly it isn't....trust me it def isn't....I'm not helping much am I :angel:
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    not if you compare it to other members' ages.. ;dry;

    but do not worry, you can still consider me an 18- year old (or even less :lollypop: ) and talk to me accordingly .. people never guess how old I am, and tell me I look 21 or so, which makes me very happy :love:

    most importantly, I really feel I am a child on the inside :broken:..

    salam
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    Hehe people think I'm 16 bad thing is I end up attracting kids which is not good at all
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    (Original post by Poison Ivy)
    Hehe people think I'm 16 bad thing is I end up attracting kids which is not good at all
    ^o)
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    (Original post by Poison Ivy)
    Hehe people think I'm 16 bad thing is I end up attracting kids which is not good at all
    sorry?:confused:
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    It doesn't matter, don't worry
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    looooool.. you 16.... 5ft0...... attract kids

    :p::p::p::p:
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    Well obv at that height you'd look younger....sometimes I get told I look 17,18,19....it's kinda bad when I have to let them down bless their cotton socks :p:

    (Kids to me = anyone below 20yrs!)
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    (Original post by Poison Ivy)
    Well obv at that height you'd look younger....sometimes I get told I look 17,18,19....it's kinda bad when I have to let them down bless their cotton socks :p:

    (Kids to me = anyone below 20yrs!)
    Lol, age is just a number
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    agreed. I've got more credentials than a lot of over 20's
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    (Original post by Poison Ivy)
    Well obv at that height you'd look younger....sometimes I get told I look 17,18,19....it's kinda bad when I have to let them down bless their cotton socks :p:

    (Kids to me = anyone below 20yrs!)
    :mad:
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    Oh right so you expect me to tell my folks:

    Me: Hey I've found someone!!
    Them: Oh thats good who is he? where from? level of education? etc etc etc
    Me: Oh he's still studying
    Them: Oh that's good the more educated the better
    Me: He's younger than me
    Them: Well a couple of weeks isn't that bad
    Me: No not a few weeks
    Them: Well then a few months isn't bad
    Me: erm more like a few years....
    Them:.....*slap*
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    (Original post by Poison Ivy)
    Oh right so you expect me to tell my folks:

    Me: Hey I've found someone!!
    Them: Oh thats good who is he? where from? level of education? etc etc etc
    Me: Oh he's still studying
    Them: Oh that's good the more educated the better
    Me: He's younger than me
    Them: Well a couple of weeks isn't that bad
    Me: No not a few weeks
    Them: Well then a few months isn't bad
    Me: erm more like a few years....
    Them:.....*slap*
    Lol :p: in the end, it depends on you and not your folks :p: If he has manners and religion then age shouldn't really be a prob
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    True but then it could get hard because you're both at different levels of understanding things and see things differently in a different perspective you know.
 
 
 
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