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Maths at Trinity College

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Reply 20

Also, I see what everyone is saying about King's. I guess it's not a wise decision to apply on the basis of state school percentages. That wittles my shortlist down to St. John's, Queen's and Trinity (maybe).


People weren't saying not to apply to King's, just not to base a decision simply on the state school issue. So don't take it off of the list simply because your initial reason for looking at it was unfounded- go have a look at it.

Reply 21

I applied to Trinity because I'd only heard of Kings, Trinity and Emma when I was filling in my application form. Yes, I'm the organised kind of guy who researched life altering descisions as much as possible :wink:

Trinity is a lovely college, nice accomodation, loads of people (of all subjects) to socialise with (though that's true anywhere really) and you might be the extra reputation factor outside the university from some people. Subjectwise it gets high results because it attracts some of the best. Just because you get in doesn't automatically make you one of them. Trinity seemed to attract more than it's fair share of 3rd, passes and fails in my year.

Trinity puts on no extra supervisions or treats you any differently academic-wise than other colleges will, half the time you're supervised by people from other colleges anyway!

There are plenty of reasons to pick Trinity, the somewhat misguided view it's superior in education isn't one of them.

Reply 22

Shanepatel
That wittles my shortlist down to St. John's, Queen's and Trinity (maybe). I'll go back and visit those and hopefully I'll then have a clearer idea about where to apply.

St John's is good for Maths - lots of our mathmos get Firsts, sometimes even beating Trinity on that front.

Reply 23

lol

Reply 24

:biggrin:

Game theory is on Decision 2 right? I will most likely be doing Mechanics 2 instead...... :wink:

Reply 25

I applied to John's because although I wanted a big, central college with a fair number of mathmos, I though trinity would be a bit too big and have a few too many mathmos and I could sense that there was a 'thing' about it and a 'thing' about being a trinity mathmo etc and I didn't really fancy dealing with these issues. Having convinced myself to apply for Cambridge maths - convincing myself to become a trinity mathmo was one step (pun definitely intended) I felt didn't need taking.

Now, I feel like either John's or Trinity would have been fine...whether it's easier or harder to get in to Trinity is not a question that can really be answered in satisfactory fashion and like everyone else, you don't want to get rejected or pooled to a lame college (sorry lame colleges - just trying to make a point). I won't advise you either way, though.

Reply 26

sTe\/o
St John's is good for Maths - lots of our mathmos get Firsts, sometimes even beating Trinity on that front.


:cool:

.....August 17th is taking its sweet time!

If you wanna go to Trinity College strikingly more than any other college, apply there. If not, then just pick one of your favourites, I don't think it really makes a huge difference, so don't fret too much about it. Apply to St John's

Reply 27

Spenceman_
I applied to John's because although I wanted a big, central college with a fair number of mathmos, I though trinity would be a bit too big and have a few too many mathmos and I could sense that there was a 'thing' about it and a 'thing' about being a trinity mathmo etc and I didn't really fancy dealing with these issues. Having convinced myself to apply for Cambridge maths - convincing myself to become a trinity mathmo was one step (pun definitely intended) I felt didn't need taking.

Now, I feel like either John's or Trinity would have been fine...whether it's easier or harder to get in to Trinity is not a question that can really be answered in satisfactory fashion and like everyone else, you don't want to get rejected or pooled to a lame college (sorry lame colleges - just trying to make a point). I won't advise you either way, though.


Good advice. Upon reading all your opinions, and various other things about all the IMO team members normally applying to Trinity, I've decided against applying there and ruled it off my shortlist, basically on the preconception that I won't be good enough. Rather than just hoping to get pooled, I will apply to college that I have a reasonable chance of getting in, which leaves me with:

Queen's
St. John's
King's

I'd probably prefer the admissions process at King's - they give you a test before interview and use the interview to go through the questions you couldn't do, which I'd definitely prefer. But I still need to decide whether their extremely high ratio of applicants to offers ratio (around 6) is enough to deter me from applying, upon hearing your repeated shouts to totally disregard the statistics.

The decision is slowly becoming easier, so thanks for all your help so far!

Reply 28

Admissions figures say very little and change every year. THink which college you would apply to without regarding the admission figures. If you really are a candidate cambridge want and you do well on the step you'll get in wherever you apply.

Reply 29

Shanepatel
Good advice. Upon reading all your opinions, and various other things about all the IMO team members normally applying to Trinity, I've decided against applying there and ruled it off my shortlist, basically on the preconception that I won't be good enough. Rather than just hoping to get pooled, I will apply to college that I have a reasonable chance of getting in, which leaves me with: ...

Argh! There are probably 4 IMO team members, on average, who will be applying to university each year. Trinity has about 160 applicants, gives about 60 offers, and admits about 40. 4 out of 40 is not a lot. I fail to see why the calibre of the average applicant at Trinity would be much greater than that at any other college.

Who's to say that all the best applicants want to go to as large a college as Trinity, anyway? Rule out Trinity because you don't like its size, its atmosphere, whatever, but don't rule it out based on that awful reasoning.

Reply 30

FWoodhouse
Argh! There are probably 4 IMO team members, on average, who will be applying to university each year. Trinity has about 160 applicants, gives about 60 offers, and admits about 40. 4 out of 40 is not a lot. I fail to see why the calibre of the average applicant at Trinity would be much greater than that at any other college.

Who's to say that all the best applicants want to go to as large a college as Trinity, anyway? Rule out Trinity because you don't like its size, its atmosphere, whatever, but don't rule it out based on that awful reasoning.


There is a certain grandeur to studying Maths at Trinity which you cannot ignore. By assumption, this reputation attracts the very best Maths students. Invariably, the young elite Mathematicians i.e. UK IMO team members will want to apply to the best. Refer to the following link for a table of IMO university destinations:

http://www.imo-register.org.uk/#stats

There is a fairly clear trend. Sure, it would be nice to study there, but there must be a reason why Trinity is the favourite college of IMO team members.

Reply 31

Shanepatel
There is a certain grandeur to studying Maths at Trinity which you cannot ignore. By assumption, this reputation attracts the very best Maths students. Invariably, the young elite Mathematicians i.e. UK IMO team members will want to apply to the best. Refer to the following link for a table of IMO university destinations:

http://www.imo-register.org.uk/#stats

There is a fairly clear trend. Sure, it would be nice to study there, but there must be a reason why Trinity is the favourite college of IMO team members.

:hmmmm: That's odd. None of them have gone to Robinson college :eek: ! Obviously not of a high enough calibre...

Reply 32

Shanepatel
There is a certain grandeur to studying Maths at Trinity which you cannot ignore. By assumption, this reputation attracts the very best Maths students. Invariably, the young elite Mathematicians i.e. UK IMO team members will want to apply to the best. Refer to the following link for a table of IMO university destinations:

http://www.imo-register.org.uk/#stats

There is a fairly clear trend. Sure, it would be nice to study there, but there must be a reason why Trinity is the favourite college of IMO team members.

The training camp for the last 20 people before final IMO team selection takes place at Trinity. I would wager some of them develop an affection for the college.

I really wish people could just apply to the college they like the most. Who cares about who else applies there? And if you're not that concerned about what college you go to, make an open application.

Reply 33

Muffin Man
:hmmmm: That's odd. None of them have gone to Robinson college :eek: ! Damn them all!


Perhaps they weren't good enough to go to Robinson? :wink:

Reply 34

Lusus Naturae
Perhaps they weren't good enough to go to Robinson? :wink:

:rofl: That must be it.
In fact, I'm going to edit my post. :biggrin:

Reply 35

Of course they weren't! Only REALLY clever people get into Robinson . . . :biggrin:

Reply 36

I just can't believe that even when you get into Cambridge, some colleges are still supposedly cleverer than others. It's like you walk up the highest mountain in the world, and when you get to the top, there's another mountain on top of the first one!

Well, me and Muffin Man are going to kick some serious Trinity arse if we get in!

Robinsonians Unite!

Reply 37

Dragon Girl
I just can't believe that even when you get into Cambridge, some colleges are still supposedly cleverer than others. It's like you walk up the highest mountain in the world, and when you get to the top, there's another mountain on top of the first one!

Well, me and Muffin Man are going to kick some serious Trinity arse if we get in!

Robinsonians Unite!

:tee:
We'll show those Trinitarians that Robinsonians come first for a reason other than alphabetically :fight: (again, if we get in :rolleyes: ).

Reply 38

Muffin Man
:tee:
We'll show those Trinitarians that Robinsonians come first for a reason other than alphabetically :fight: (again, if we get in :rolleyes: ).

Those who attempt to kick Trinity arse will incur the wrath of Newton's ghost! Besides, there'll be so many of us you'll all tire out before you get to all of us.

Reply 39

Dragon Girl
I just can't believe that even when you get into Cambridge, some colleges are still supposedly cleverer than others.
Some colleges consistently do better than others in the exams. I think that this is partly to do with the fact that some colleges deliberately seek applicants who are very likely to get firsts (I'm looking at you, Catz) whereas other colleges might err towards selecting someone who's more of an 'all-rounder'. Also, some colleges attract higher-calibre students than others do, for whatever reason (reputation, prestige, wealth etc...)

What's the moral to be drawn here? A college's academic results have very little to do with the standard of teaching at that college, and everything to do with the applicants that they end up taking.

It's true that the average grade in (say) maths at Trinity is higher than the average grade at Newnham. In fact it's consistently half a grade higher. Does this mean that you're more likely to get a good grade if you go to Trinity instead of Newnham? Of course not - you determine your grade, and your college doesn't.