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Petty Teenage Problem...

I know it's not the be all and end all, I know it's not the worst thing that could happen in the world, but I have man issues.

I was with my ex for what we both went into saying would be a long term relationship, it only lasted a month, but in that time he treated me badly putting me down and manipulating me through negative behaviour.

After this I slept with 2 of my friends (1 of which spiked my drink with alot of whisky and then seduced me and the other a close friend) and then our group went out for drinks. The close friend was there but that was fine as we aren't together and our friend Alex was there.

We all had alot too drink and I'd starting to drink at 2 (it was 8ish) and I was telling a funny story. Alex held me handsa in his lap and rubbed my thighs and it was obvious he was coming onto me. We spoke briefly about what we wanted from people at the moment and it sounded like the same thing. He kissed me and then we were just like together holding hands and cuddling for the rest of the night.

At the end of the night he came back to mine and we kissed and more but then slept (actual sleeping not sex) together. The next day we went out and he blanked me. I said to him what's up and he said he needed time to think. I was slightly hurt but accepted it. He then text me to say he'd decided to just be friends because he wasn't in the right place for anything else or to feel anything for anyone right now.

This is where it should have ended. But it got blurred. He text me loads and visited me at work to chat to me. Then last night he came round (I invited him) to eat mini milks and watch a movie at my flat. Then we were going to sleep. Only we ended up play fighting, and curled up together watching tv. Then in bed he came onto me and we had sex. Within five minutes of finishing he was talking about how he needed to shave for the girls his gonna pull tonight (his going to a club I'm barred from) and get more condoms. He had said before he came round he wante to be just friends and not give the wrong signals, then after he said we are friends that ****.

I DON'T WANT TO BE FRIENDS THAT ****. EVERYONE KNOWS I DO NOT DO THAT EXCEPT IF I INITIATE IT WHICH I DIDN'T. I WAN'T HIM TO BE MY BOYFRIEND.

I want an open relationship but he can't commit to that. And I feel so unloved and used, the words of my ex ring through my head, no one else will ever want you other than for a shag. What do I do? He says he needs to have time to play around (he only recently broke up from a relationship) but when his finished being a ****wit will he want me if I wait? Is everything my ex said about me true? Should I explain to him why it hurts me? Am I being unreasonable? I feel confused.

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Reply 1
There's a couple of possibilities here, he's either **cking you about or he's on the rebound. If he's just playing with you then I strongly suggest you stop seeing him and talking to him, if he texts you then don't reply. On the other hand if he is on the rebound then he might actually like you, but he just mmight not kow it yet. Unfortunately it's hard to tell which one it is. In the end the decision is down to you, are you prepared to wait around for him incase he is just on the rebound, if this is the case then you and him may end up together, but at the same time he may not be interested in you at all and you will probably end up hurt. The final option is to tell him that you are not interested in just sex and being friends, let him know you are looking for a boyfriend and see how he reacts, if he is doubtful then I would go out and find someone else as he obviously isn't worth it. hope that makes some sense and helps abit
I've been there so I know how you feel. He knows you want him which is why he took advantage of you.

An open relationship is ****. Me and My ex tried it and its just horrible.

I know you like him but please, dont get yourself in the situation where you end up having sex with him again (unless you happen to be going out) because each time you do, you will feel worse.

You know him best so maybe talking to him would work. But it doesnt sound as though he's going to change his mind and want to be in a committed relationship so trying to explain might just be a waste of time

From my experience it works best if you redraw the boundaries at "friends" ie no nakedness, no sex and sleep in seperate beds if you end up staying at the same place. At least that way, even though you are not going out with him, you can still be his mate and you wont feel used.

Please dont think over what your ex said when you broke up, he was clearly trying to hurt you and his comments are not worth a second thought
Reply 3
DO NOT listen to what your ex said about only being good for sex, you will have a meaningful relationship in the future & if you think like that you will feel worthless & do stuff you regret. With regards to this friend, don't continue to sleep with him, you will only get hurt. He doesn't want a relationship right now, he may decide later he wants you in the future but I would say don't hold your breath for it. If he really liked you he would be likely to start something now. I'm sorry if this sounds harsh but don't hang around offering sex hoping for more cos you will end up getting hurt. You are probably feeling quite emotionally vulnerable after splitting up with this other guy. Give it time & you will find someone else. In the meantime stick to being just friends with your mates or you might well wreck the friendships
Reply 4
I spose it may be difficult for him as he knows I fancy him, and as a person I am a very touchy feely person. I mean when he was in a strop and thinking I'd treat him like everyone else and he'd give me evils and flinch.

I wouldn't mind him getting off with other people, if I knew he was coming back to me. That sounds desperate but it doesn't bother me, I want him to spend time past sex with me like go to the beach, watch dvds and hang out as well as us having sex all the time but he seems to believe that to do this as a non couple all the non sex moments must have no contact and the sex times must be like a on enight stand.

I've had alot of casual sex before for someone my age and although I don't regret it, it's part of the sort of lifestyle I lead and I still do it now, I'm not happy to do it with him on a long term basis because I know I don't see him as just a shag and so I don't ant him to see me like that.

His got a reputation for being a clingy sensitive soul (the kind who your mother tells you to be gentle with) but I think his last girlfriend really broke him. He fell for her and he could see them marrying one day and then she just dumped him for someone else. He knows what his doing isn't nice though because he's said himself his an *******. So I'm not sure if it's rebound or being an ass.
Reply 5
Also Claire, one of my best friends in the world, who I also live with started off as a guy I met and dated and shagged. He treated me like crap at times and took advantage but we both now get on like a house on fire. Sex doesn't always ruin stuff.
more likely he's being an ass, did it actually bother you that your drink was spiked. Is this what you really want just lots of sex without a loving relationship, if so its your life but take precautions because otherwise your gonna end up with an STI.

If its a boyfriend you are after, Take things more slowly with guys if you want a proper relationship don't rush straight into sex, it doesn;t normally work out that way, don't let them use your body like an easy piece of meat.
Reply 7
The guy who spiked my drink. Was I bothered? Of course I was but suprisingly I can't find the pure hatred I often find for others towards him.

He was a friend of a friend who I was meant to be moving in and we got a bottle of wine to celebrate the fact that we had sorted out me bieng his new housemate, he put lots of whisky in my glass and when I said it tasted funny he told me not to be silly and encouraged me to neck it. Needless to say I drunk nearly a whole bottle of spiked one and couldn't coherently speak then he came onto me. He had a missus too, whose so stunning it's untrue.

However he said alot of things to me that night because he'd been drinking to and I realised he was a very messed up person. He seems relaxed but he's really apathetic and his basically a lost soul. He won't come near me now though because I got too close (when he told me stuff).

I am always careful, I'm not stupid. I want sex and nice cuddly bits, but without the promises of being faithful. You can love someone to the ends of the earth and still cheat on them. Mistakes happen. I would rather not have the responsibility of promising that I won't because I am one of those girls that isn't stunning but gets quite a bit of attention and because of my natural way I usually end up with guys thinking I want to kiss. When I'm drunk I get very confused and don't stop things quick enough then realise and cry with the guilt of cheating. I'd rather not promise so if that happens it's cool.
Reply 8
He was using you for a shag I'm afraid. You are drunk and vunerable and so he decides to give it a go. In the first incident he ended up back at your place hoping for a shag, didn't get one and blanked you. He says to you "I want to be just friends" which is man talk for I'm not interested in going out with you (but might be up for a drunken shag). He suddenly seems all interested cos he thinks he's in. You invite him round so he knows you are interested. He takes advantage of the fact that you are interested and you end up having sex. Having achieved his aim (shagging you) he loses interest and suddenly the nice behaviour ends. He say you can be friends that f**k just in case you might be stupid enough to sleep with him a couple more times before he gets bored of you. Now hopefully the next move you make is to get that assh0le out of your life asap.

This scenario has happened to me and pretty much every female friend I know. What your ex was saying was total b0llocks designed to hurt you. Of course there will be other people that want to go out with you and you'll have some great relationships ahead. Unfortunately some guys are very opportunistic and will take advantage of a woman by letting them believe they 'want more'. You happened to run in to one of those guys and spending more time with him will just knock your confidence even more and make you feel low. You don't deserve to be treated badly and that is the only way this guy will treat you. Get rid of him, please.
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You can love someone to the ends of the earth and still cheat on them. Mistakes happen. I would rather not have the responsibility of promising that I won't because I am one of those girls that isn't stunning but gets quite a bit of attention and because of my natural way I usually end up with guys thinking I want to kiss. When I'm drunk I get very confused and don't stop things quick enough then realise and cry with the guilt of cheating. I'd rather not promise so if that happens it's cool.


Not true you can love someone and stay faithful it's not actually that hard, if you really love someone that much you would not even consider cheating i mean why do it, i have been with my girlfriend now for over 18 months and i think shes the love of my life and i would not even dream of cheating on her.

Maybe if you don't want things to happen maybe you should cut down on the drink. Let me put it this way if your not happy people are calling you nasty names, you gotta think about all these guys who you are just letting having your body, now they are gonna think oh she's so easy.

But not everyone cheats on their partners.
Reply 10
I know not everyone cheats, and I know that you can stop yourself. With my ex who was extremely manipulative I was faithful by literally cutting the oppurtunity of new men out of my life, and making it clear to the old ones I was off bounds.

I find being faithful very hard because to me the attention and the odd kiss or squeeze of the bum is just normal, I wouldn't have sex in a relationship!

It's made a development anyway. I just got a text from him saying that L2 (the club) is **** without me and can he come see me instead? I phoned him and said I'd think about it and he said he'd call at 1.30 to sort out what was happening! Now I'm torn as to what to do. Part of me wants me to invite him up, sleep with him and then in post-shag glow lay down the law. Another part wants me to tell him to **** off. However if I tell him to **** off bluntly it'll be uncomfortable in the future. His close one of my best friends, and I will have to see him quite often.
maybe invite him round but for a talk only and decide what you both want
ro-ro
I know it's not the be all and end all, I know it's not the worst thing that could happen in the world, but I have man issues.

I was with my ex for what we both went into saying would be a long term relationship, it only lasted a month, but in that time he treated me badly putting me down and manipulating me through negative behaviour.

After this I slept with 2 of my friends (1 of which spiked my drink with alot of whisky and then seduced me and the other a close friend) and then our group went out for drinks. The close friend was there but that was fine as we aren't together and our friend Alex was there.

We all had alot too drink and I'd starting to drink at 2 (it was 8ish) and I was telling a funny story. Alex held me handsa in his lap and rubbed my thighs and it was obvious he was coming onto me. We spoke briefly about what we wanted from people at the moment and it sounded like the same thing. He kissed me and then we were just like together holding hands and cuddling for the rest of the night.

At the end of the night he came back to mine and we kissed and more but then slept (actual sleeping not sex) together. The next day we went out and he blanked me. I said to him what's up and he said he needed time to think. I was slightly hurt but accepted it. He then text me to say he'd decided to just be friends because he wasn't in the right place for anything else or to feel anything for anyone right now.

This is where it should have ended. But it got blurred. He text me loads and visited me at work to chat to me. Then last night he came round (I invited him) to eat mini milks and watch a movie at my flat. Then we were going to sleep. Only we ended up play fighting, and curled up together watching tv. Then in bed he came onto me and we had sex. Within five minutes of finishing he was talking about how he needed to shave for the girls his gonna pull tonight (his going to a club I'm barred from) and get more condoms. He had said before he came round he wante to be just friends and not give the wrong signals, then after he said we are friends that ****.

I DON'T WANT TO BE FRIENDS THAT ****. EVERYONE KNOWS I DO NOT DO THAT EXCEPT IF I INITIATE IT WHICH I DIDN'T. I WAN'T HIM TO BE MY BOYFRIEND.

I want an open relationship but he can't commit to that. And I feel so unloved and used, the words of my ex ring through my head, no one else will ever want you other than for a shag. What do I do? He says he needs to have time to play around (he only recently broke up from a relationship) but when his finished being a ****wit will he want me if I wait? Is everything my ex said about me true? Should I explain to him why it hurts me? Am I being unreasonable? I feel confused.


what a cock! you can do better then that sweetie. then again you shouldn't have slept with if despite the signals, you should have waited untill you were 100% sure he was interested. men like that are scum, and i wouldn't even bother being freinds with him if he knows he can menipulate you like that.
So he got drunk now and wants sex. Hell no. You know that thing about men wanting what they can't have? Well it's true. Regardless of what result you want, not letting him come round is the best thing you can do right now. The only way you can 'lay down the law' is to show him that his actions don't get rewarded. If he treats you like sh*t and you still sleep with him then you are telling him it is OK to treat you badly.

Hopefully having time away will allow you to see this more objectively, which you definitely need.
Reply 14
Well, if he liked you, why would he apparently "need" to play around first? And then think this through logically - he needs to "play around" first. His priority is on PLAYING AROUND with girls. Has he considered the feelings of the girls he's about to play around with? Now, considering that, what makes you think he'll consider your feelings? So far, he hasn't. And such a person is NOT worth waiting for. And such a person is not worth you looking down on yourself. If he can't value you, that's his loss. A man who refuses the commitment of another is just being downright stupid, and a man who refuses to commit is not worth having and not worth giving yourself to.

Don't degrade yourself like that. You deserve to be with someone who loves and values you for who you are. If they want you only for your body - they can go screw themselves. Every woman has a pair of breasts and an arse, to put it crudely. You're not just "any woman" - you're you and you should be valued like you deserve and if a guy can't see that, they're just blind. Don't let them destroy you - they're not worth it.
Reply 15
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I know not everyone cheats, and I know that you can stop yourself. With my ex who was extremely manipulative I was faithful by literally cutting the oppurtunity of new men out of my life, and making it clear to the old ones I was off bounds.

I find being faithful very hard because to me the attention and the odd kiss or squeeze of the bum is just normal, I wouldn't have sex in a relationship!

It's made a development anyway. I just got a text from him saying that L2 (the club) is **** without me and can he come see me instead? I phoned him and said I'd think about it and he said he'd call at 1.30 to sort out what was happening! Now I'm torn as to what to do. Part of me wants me to invite him up, sleep with him and then in post-shag glow lay down the law. Another part wants me to tell him to **** off. However if I tell him to **** off bluntly it'll be uncomfortable in the future. His close one of my best friends, and I will have to see him quite often.


Try laying down the law and NOT sleeping with him, dear. It's stupid to give it to him again and then lay down the law cus by then he can just not follow the law but he would still have had a shag.
irisng
Try laying down the law and NOT sleeping with him, dear. It's stupid to give it to him again and then lay down the law cus by then he can just not follow the law but he would still have had a shag.
Exactly. That is what I said too but I have a sneaking suspicion that there'll be a 'I slept with him and then he did a runner again' post tomorrow.
rosetinted
Exactly. That is what I said too but how much do you wanna bet that she ignores this advice?


course she will, she'll go and bloody sleep with the idiot, she really needs to let go before something bad happens.
Reply 18
Ha ha I love the way you talk about me like I'm not here!

He hasn't called anyway so it's not an issue. He had his chance tonight and blew it so that's his fault. We could have talked and sorted it all.
ro-ro
We could have talked and sorted it all.
So he's treated you like crap and you are still going to forgive him? Get him neutered and do women everywhere a favour. :smile: