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Reply 1
MBBCh and MBBS degree are essentially the same, standard UK medicine degrees. An MD is the US equivalent, in the UK an MD is a research degree.
Reply 2
Pav27
MBBCh and MBBS degree are essentially the same, standard UK medicine degrees. An MD is the US equivalent, in the UK an MD is a research degree.


thanks for the reply Pav27:smile:

so if i wanted to become a doc and then later go for surgery , which would be better ? an MBBCh or an MBBS and why?

and there must be some difference between the two of them, right?
maybe one is preferred over the other or something?
sandra
thanks for the reply Pav27:smile:

so if i wanted to become a doc and then later go for surgery , which would be better ? an MBBCh or an MBBS and why?

and there must be some difference between the two of them, right?
maybe one is preferred over the other or something?

Nope, MBBCh and MBBS (and BMBS or MBChb for that matter) are exactly the same. All stand for 'Medicinæ Baccalaureus & Baccalaureus Chirurgiæ' - thus completing medical school and attaining this degree will allow you to practice surgery. Different medical schools in the UK give different titles, but all of them are equivalent.
Reply 4
idiopathic
Nope, MBBCh and MBBS (and BMBS or MBChb for that matter) are exactly the same. All stand for 'Medicinæ Baccalaureus & Baccalaureus Chirurgiæ' - thus completing medical school and attaining this degree will allow you to practice surgery. Different medical schools in the UK give different titles, but all of them are equivalent.


thanks for the reply - ill rep u when i can:smile:

so, do u mean that after obtaining this degree - i wont have to do an additional 3 /4 years of speacialisation to practise surgery?

also- the degree in the UK is of how many years (including the internship year) ?
i get confused bcoz some of the unis websites say 5, some say 6, and some even say 7 :confused:

and i dont even know whether they mean including the internship year or without it:confused::confused:
sandra
thanks for the reply - ill rep u when i can:smile:

so, do u mean that after obtaining this degree - i wont have to do an additional 3 /4 years of speacialisation to practise surgery?

also- the degree in the UK is of how many years (including the internship year) ?
i get confused bcoz some of the unis websites say 5, some say 6, and some even say 7 :confused:

and i dont even know whether they mean including the internship year or without it:confused::confused:

You 'practice' surgery during your post-grad training as a doctor.

When you hear university course lengths, they do not include the 'internship' or 'foundation years'.
There are some courses which are 4 years, but these are for graduates only.
Most courses are 5 years in length. Some medical schools allow students to undertake an additional year out during the course to complete an extra degree (BSc), which increases the course length from 5 to 6 yrs.
Reply 6
Look, after your recent posts, I'm going to try my best not to be rude now, but you really want to order some medical school prospectuses, and get a few books out of the library.

It's one thing to ask for clarification on a forum, it's quite another to be TLTG (too lazy to Google)...
sandra
thanks for the reply - ill rep u when i can:smile:

so, do u mean that after obtaining this degree - i wont have to do an additional 3 /4 years of speacialisation to practise surgery?

You have to undertake specialist training in any case, even after internship. I believe you can only practise as a GP with additional training in a specialty.
Reply 8
Fluffy
Look, after your recent posts, I'm going to try my best not to be rude now, but you really want to order some medical school prospectuses, and get a few books out of the library.

It's one thing to ask for clarification on a forum, it's quite another to be TLTG (too lazy to Google)...
Can I get the claws out?
Reply 9
Fluffy
Look, after your recent posts, I'm going to try my best not to be rude now, but you really want to order some medical school prospectuses, and get a few books out of the library.

It's one thing to ask for clarification on a forum, it's quite another to be TLTG (too lazy to Google)...


thanks for being so kind and understanding :rolleyes:

the fact is that i have been using google and yahoo and other search engines, visiting websites, etc - for at least 4 to 5 hours every day

so, no - i am not TLTG

the reason why i have asked so many qs is bcoz a lot of the info i have obtained thru googling contradicts each other

and the fact that i am from a different corner of the earth where the education system for school/ college/ uni is COMPLETELY different does not help either

so forgive me for asking a lot of genuine qs and for not knowing absolutetely everything like you do :rolleyes:
Reply 10
Wikipaedia would have given you an answer - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bachelors_of_Medicine_and_Surgery

and even by goggling I can spot 4 good website on the first page alone that explain this stuff...

Not being local is not really any excuse!!!
Reply 11
Renal
Can I get the claws out?


Be my guest!
Reply 12
I think what you want to know is this:

1) Medicine (MB ChB/MBBS etc.) for 5 years (6 years if you intercalate ie do an extra degree in the middle)*
2) Two years foundation training (this is after you graduate and are working as a doctor ie get paid - these are generic training posts although you will work in different specialities)**
3) Enter specialist training eg surgery, general practice, medicine, paeds etc.

*Four years if you already have a relevent degree (ie enter a graduate entry programme). 6 years if you do a pre med course (7 if you do a pre med then intercalate!)
** Some medical schools count F1 as the medical course (eg at Leeds Phase I is years 1-3; phase II is year 4, Phase III is year 4 and F1 - 'Becomomg a dr').

BUT individual university websites do help as does wikipedia etc.!!!!
Reply 13
Wiki all the way.
Reply 14
WAMS
** Some medical schools count F1 as the medical course (eg at Leeds Phase I is years 1-3; phase II is year 4, Phase III is year 4 and F1 - 'Becomomg a dr').
How can that work if their students move out of their deanery or others move in?
Reply 15
WAMS
I think what you want to know is this:

1) Medicine (MB ChB/MBBS etc.) for 5 years (6 years if you intercalate ie do an extra degree in the middle)*
2) Two years foundation training (this is after you graduate and are working as a doctor ie get paid - these are generic training posts although you will work in different specialities)**
3) Enter specialist training eg surgery, general practice, medicine, paeds etc.

*Four years if you already have a relevent degree (ie enter a graduate entry programme). 6 years if you do a pre med course (7 if you do a pre med then intercalate!)
** Some medical schools count F1 as the medical course (eg at Leeds Phase I is years 1-3; phase II is year 4, Phase III is year 4 and F1 - 'Becomomg a dr').

BUT individual university websites do help as does wikipedia etc.!!!!



thanks - that did help me a lot!
Reply 16
Renal
How can that work if their students move out of their deanery or others move in?


The medical school that you qualified with still have to sign you off at the end of F1 to say you can be registered with the GMC (no matter which deanery you go to). In reality the Postgraduate Dean 'looks after you' on behalf of whichever medical school you went to. Therefore in reality (I think) the postgraduate dean (or on his behalf the Foundation School directer) will recommend that the medical schools signs the paper or not. Seems a bit silly I know. It's probably a historical thing.
in ranking terms MBBChir (cambridge) is the best degree, followed by MBBCh, then MBBS.
after all, 7 letters have got to be better than 5 or 4.
but wasn't i saddened to discover people who do foundation years get 4 letters just for that. can't rmemeber what they are.
apppalled.
Fluffy
Look, after your recent posts, I'm going to try my best not to be rude now, but you really want to order some medical school prospectuses, and get a few books out of the library.

It's one thing to ask for clarification on a forum, it's quite another to be TLTG (too lazy to Google)...


u should make a compassionate and understanding Dr..
Reply 19
Robot Chicken
in ranking terms MBBChir (cambridge) is the best degree, followed by MBBCh, then MBBS.
after all, 7 letters have got to be better than 5 or 4.
but wasn't i saddened to discover people who do foundation years get 4 letters just for that. can't rmemeber what they are.
apppalled.

Irish degrees must be superb then: MB BCh BAO :wink: