Top EU official says we want EU superstate where with no national governments

Towards world government. We said it would happen and you called us "conspiracy theorists", words not so lightly thrown as well.

Makes sense. A 'United States of Europe' would be a superpower with the largest, most advanced...army in the world.

There will be no war. We are already the first generation ever to experience a time without armed conflicts in Europe, thanks to the existence of the EU.

Depends who is in this EU superstate. Without the UK, the EU would have almost no expeditionary capability.


Really?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conflicts_in_Europe#21st_century

We are lucky to be in North-Western Europe which has largely been conflict free (with some notable exceptions such as Northern Ireland). Never place a bet against war.

you are forgetting the troubles in Russia/Georgia, Franco in Spain, IRA bombings, ETA bombings, Turkey invading Cyprus, not to even mention the Baklans all of which has happened since WW2,

We are lucky to be in North-Western Europe which has largely been conflict free (with some notable exceptions such as Northern Ireland). Never place a bet against war.

If a United States of Europe was to be a success, all the crappy (Eastern) countries would have to be discluded.

If there is going to be an EU super state, it would only be fair for it to have a president & governors like the USA. It would also need to reduce in size. Too bad that's not going to happen due to the current corrupt and power hungry EU commission.



To be honest, the southern European countries (i.e Greece, Portugal, Spain, & Italy) are in worse shape than a lot of eastern Europe (for the most part) at the moment.

so you would like the UK to have no Parliament and just a governor ridiculous war before that happens

In the long term, I think a European Federal State would be a good thing. Nation-states are rightly being eroded and this would be the final nail in the coffin, at least with regard to Europe.

However, the current shape of the EU puts me off for the moment. It is far too neoliberal, anti-worker and pro-bank, as well as being pretty undemocratic. Until these issues have been addressed (and I think it will take a shock to the system, which may include a British exit, to do that), full federalism should not be on the table.

The basic process of increasing internationalisation however has been going on since the end of WW2 and is inevitable. People need to hurry up and acknowledge that so we can address the more important question of what we want globalisation to look like.

I hope they respect cultural diversity; i'd hate to see a common language imposed on all Europeans.

you are forgetting the troubles in Russia/Georgia, Franco in Spain, IRA bombings, ETA bombings, Turkey invading Cyprus, not to even mention the Baklans all of which has happened since WW2,

My favourite line from the article- 'We assume Britain's leaving the EU so we don't even bother thinking about British sensitivities at the moment'

Thank god for that

Probably because the EU can only just function using billions of UK money without us they will never balance the books

What about when Turkey join the EU ?

What about Albania ?

Do you want them coming to Britain ?

The European Union's long-term plans are to integrate North Africa into Europe via something called the Barcelona Agreement.

We simply have to leave, like Farage said, he would rather be poor and have less immigrants in Britain. Some things are more important than money.

If a United States of Europe was to be a success, all the crappy (Eastern) countries would have to be discluded.

Depends who is in this EU superstate. Without the UK, the EU would have almost no expeditionary capability.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conflicts_in_Europe#21st_century

We are lucky to be in North-Western Europe which has largely been conflict free (with some notable exceptions such as Northern Ireland). Never place a bet against war.

I dont like the idea of the EU superstate. Hopefully we'll leave.

And at the whole war in europe thing. Alot of reasons for no wars, I expect the EU has little to do with it truth be told. Biggest I expect being that all of the european countries are currently ruled by democracy, instead of dictatorships so no more powermad peeps trying to rule the world.

so you would like the UK to have no Parliament and just a governor ridiculous war before that happens

the fact that there's an official in the european commission saying "I want to expand my government" is just ringing off warning alarms in my mind - this man wants more power for himself, clearly. a unitary europe would be to remove all the democratic progress this continent has enjoyed for all this time. european countries (western europe at least, especially scandinavia) are the most democratic in the world, so this taking away of local self-determination would be to force these countries to follow the wills of other countries over their own. this is unjustifiable. this is absurd. the EU is already a democratic poison, this will simply serve to throw the UK into the drainpipe. to have a huge unitary union is to deprive the individual of his democratic weight in his own country. to create an EU superstate, obviously, would be to make most people's opinions in isolation be almost completely meaningless.

instead of having a federal EU, we should leave the EU and have a federal UK - we should go in the totally opposite direction; from less democracy to more. the fact that 7 people actually said "yes" to this question quite frankly terrifies me. I had no idea that even that many people in the UK wanted to actively oust their local democracy in favour of the votes of other countries over their own.

so you would like the UK to have no Parliament and just a governor ridiculous war before that happens