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Here she is in all her glory (granted a bit muddy though). Nearly 5 metres of executive saloon, so big and shiny that I don't dare park in the crowded work car park for fear someone will scratch her
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How old are you? What's insurance like?
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How old are you? What's insurance like?
19 in a couple of months. Up for renewal next week actually - £705 from Admiral
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Here she is in all her glory (granted a bit muddy though). Nearly 5 metres of executive saloon, so big and shiny that I don't dare park in the crowded work car park for fear someone will scratch her
Definitely not my thing. Wouldn't spend my money on it, but each to their own.
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Just realised that I won't be able to fit a large ish fridge in the Passat. I should have brought a Skoda Superb with the split tailgate. Best of both worlds
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You're back again with your heap of .... gravel.

Looks horrible, rims need refurbishing.

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Just realised that I won't be able to fit a large ish fridge in the Passat. I should have brought a Skoda Superb with the split tailgate. Best of both worlds
Or you could get an estate I bloody love saloons, but they're so incredibly impractical for carrying any kind of awkward load. I open the boot of my estate and the floor is level with the lip of the boot and the top of the door is level with the headlining inside the car. I can quite comfortably get a decent sized armchair in there with a lot of room to spare.
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Or you could get an estate I bloody love saloons, but they're so incredibly impractical for carrying any kind of awkward load. I open the boot of my estate and the floor is level with the lip of the boot and the top of the door is level with the headlining inside the car. I can quite comfortably get a decent sized armchair in there with a lot of room to spare.
I had to have a saloon it was non-negotiable. Better to do that and pay for the odd man with a van than buy an estate
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I'd still have my Octavia
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I had to have a saloon it was non-negotiable. Better to do that and pay for the odd man with a van than buy an estate
What do you do for money, pray tell? I have a hard time imagining an 18 year old paying for a man with a van on top of his executive saloon
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Good for you.
More people should just go for what they want instead of choosing the same dreary little hatchbacks over and over again.
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Good for you.
More people should just go for what they want instead of choosing the same dreary little hatchbacks over and over again.
I wouldn't buy a hatchback if I could afford the insurance, trust me.
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I wouldn't buy a hatchback if I could afford the insurance, trust me.
You do realise that they are often more expensive to insure than a saloon or a coupe, right?
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Looks crap. Sorry about your awful car
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You do realise that they are often more expensive to insure than a saloon or a coupe, right?
I think often is the wrong word, you actually prompted me to search for coupes and saloons and I was surprised that SOME were cheaper, but it wasn't often, like you said.

I also think it's slightly contradictory that you say people should drive what they want and not stick to hatchbacks over and over again. That's easy to say, but practically not always possible. My dream car is a Honda S2000, which is completely unrealistic right now, but I've always been into hot/warm hatches also.

I drive a 1.8 sri Vauxhall Corsa (Que Corsa jokes...no it's no limited). It has 137-140 bhp (125 standard) and weighs just over 1000kg, so it's very quick, especially in comparison to the Vectra C, which weighs a whopping 1400~ KG, with the same Z18XE engine.

But, I do agree about driving what YOU want to drive. I WANT to drive my Corsa, I'm not forced to, I don't have to, but I WANT to and I ENJOY it so much!

Comments like "Oh it's a Corsa" or "Just a vauxhall " make me laugh, simply because I drive what I like, I'm not a badge snob.
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I think often is the wrong word, you actually prompted me to search for coupes and saloons and I was surprised that SOME were cheaper, but it wasn't often, like you said.

I also think it's slightly contradictory that you say people should drive what they want and not stick to hatchbacks over and over again. That's easy to say, but practically not always possible. My dream car is a Honda S2000, which is completely unrealistic right now, but I've always been into hot/warm hatches also.

I drive a 1.8 sri Vauxhall Corsa (Que Corsa jokes...no it's no limited). It has 137-140 bhp (125 standard) and weighs just over 1000kg, so it's very quick, especially in comparison to the Vectra C, which weighs a whopping 1400~ KG, with the same Z18XE engine.

But, I do agree about driving what YOU want to drive. I WANT to drive my Corsa, I'm not forced to, I don't have to, but I WANT to and I ENJOY it so much!

Comments like "Oh it's a Corsa" or "Just a vauxhall " make me laugh, simply because I drive what I like, I'm not a badge snob.

It depends what you're putting into the search engine, doesn't it?
Age of the vehicle is also pretty relevant. Very new stuff is just as dear to insure as stuff that's right at the bottom of the depreciation curve.
When you compare, for example, a golf to a Passat, chances are the Passat will be a little cheaper to insure, certainly that's always been the case in my experience. Similarly, for the same £XXXX you'll get a much newer / nicer spec'd / lower mileage Passat compared to the equivalent golf.

No disrespect intended, but someone puts a thread up on here and says "what car should I buy" you can guarantee that you'll get ten or twelve "buy a clio / buy a corsa / buy a micra".
Really? why?
Shouldn't the question be "what do you want from a vehicle" before recommending some ubiquitous hatchback? There are other options out there after all.
Driving what you want is very important - I just think it's prudent to explore all the options before going for something just because it's what the majority of other people have.

What's preventing you from buying a Honda S2000 exactly? Purchase price? Insurance?
If it's insurance there are specialists out there who deal with just that sort of thing.

Insurance is a funny thing... the cheapest thing out there that I can insure is a '48 - 80 Landrover 88" @ £83 and a few pence.
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You do realise that they are often more expensive to insure than a saloon or a coupe, right?
I don't deny what you said really, but my personal experience tells me otherwise. The car I bought was almost purely chosen based upon insurance costs - still a great A-B car with a bit of sportiness, but my next car will definitely be bigger and more powerful.
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I don't deny what you said really, but my personal experience tells me otherwise. The car I bought was almost purely chosen based upon insurance costs - still a great A-B car with a bit of sportiness, but my next car will definitely be bigger and more powerful.
Once you get to 25 it doesn't really matter. It's all about the same. OK, some stuff is more expensive than others but you'd be surprised how little the difference is.

I'm thinking about buying a TR7 - just got a quote for it. Best I've found so far is 98 quid all in or about a tenner a month. Similarly, I just insured my MGB roadster at the start of the month. That was either 83 or 87 quid - can't remember.
My Z3 was a little over £200 and my Discovery a little more than the zed.

Even an Aston Martin Vantage / M3 / 911 is only around £400 these days.
Mind you, 5 years ago I was paying £600 for a Porsche 911SC Coupe so things haven't changed that much for me.

I see new starters paying 3 and 4 grand for the tiniest little econobox and think they must be mad. Nicola, my other half had a Boxster S when she was 18 and that was 3 grand 7 years ago. To think that's apparently the norm these days just doesn't compute for me.
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I see new starters paying 3 and 4 grand for the tiniest little econobox and think they must be mad.
Yes, but most people simply have no choice, you have to start somewhere.

Thankfully I don't belong in that category, as I managed to get insured for just £1k, as a young driver with no NCD whatsoever. And a fairly newish car too (59 plate) - older cars (not including classics) being cheaper to insure is a bit of a myth IMO.
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Yes, but most people simply have no choice, you have to start somewhere.

Thankfully I don't belong in that category, as I managed to get insured for just £1k, as a young driver with no NCD whatsoever. And a fairly newish car too (59 plate) - older cars (not including classics) being cheaper to insure is a bit of a myth IMO.
They do have a choice, but the option won't be some trendy hatchback,,,
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