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Planning to visit Mecca as a non-Muslim

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The meaning is someone who is spiritually impure thus this disqualifies anyone who isn't a Muslim.

Refer to the above answer.

Also, I believe they're allowed in the outskirts of Madinah but they're not allowed to enter past a certain point. In any case, what would you guys do there? It's a place of worship.

Eh don't know, but since so many Muslims come to the city (religious tourism..sort of), surely the rest of the city with a 2 mil population (excluding the visitors during Hajj) has..things to do? :tongue:

Tbh I'd have no interest in going, but OP seems to want to, Or North Korea... (didn't even realize you could go...)

Reply 21

DeathGuardElite

Original post by RedArrow

Don't you know what a passport is?

Didn't think passports included your religious view point?

Reply 22

joey11223

Original post by RedArrow

Don't you know what a passport is?

My passport doesn't list my faith (or lack thereof) on it... :confused:

Reply 23

Ankabout

Original post by DeathGuardElite

Didn't think passports included your religious view point?

My passport says: "Religion: Islam" :biggrin:

Reply 24

Profesh

Original post by HenryKissinger

Exactly. I am prepared to take a few lashings, though. That'd be a cool story.

Which one are you, again?

Reply 25

yo radical one

Original post by RedArrow

Don't you know what a passport is?

He could literally recite the Shahada at any moment and he would be a Muslim. TBH the idea of a Muslim or a Christian, is total *******s, not every Christian thinks the same thing, not every Muslim thinks the same thing, so you have to ask, is there really such a thing as a Muslim or a Christian?

EDIT: and in fact I really wasn't aware it was listed there

(edited 10 years ago)

Reply 26

Swanbow

I think you have to show a document of faith from your Mosque if you are a convert.

Reply 27

DeathGuardElite

Original post by Ankabout

My passport says: "Religion: Islam" :biggrin:

*has never owned a passport* >.> <.< but i thought it could help hijackers like that movie where these hijackers take this plane and seperate the jews from the non-jews also chuck norris is in it.

EDIT: British Passports do not have your religion on.

(edited 10 years ago)

Reply 28

HenryKissinger

Original post by shouldbestudying

I plan on performing Hajj or Umrah as an Ex-Muslim.

Now that's interesting. There's no way they'd be able to tell, especially if you have a Muslim name.

Reply 29

faketitle

Original post by HenryKissinger

Me and my friends are thinking of going on holiday in the summer, and we thought it'd be cool to go to some place unusual. They suggested North Korea, which would be interesting, if a bit harrowing, but I suggested we go to Mecca. It'd be a pretty awesome story if we manager to sneak in and see what it's like.

Now, none of us are Muslims so we'd obviously have to bone up on some of the customs and maybe grow beards, but apart from that, how hard is it? What kind of things would we need to know? If the worst comes to the worst and we get caught, what will the Saudi officials do?

Thanks in advance. :biggrin:

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Mecca isn't a place for tourists/a summer vacation.

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Not all Muslim men who go to Mecca have beards so you needn't worry about that; they won't catch you out on your appearance because there's Muslims from all over the world going there.

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Don't forget to don the right garb and take pics for TSR! :biggrin:

Reply 30

faketitle

Original post by shouldbestudying

I plan on performing Hajj or Umrah as an Ex-Muslim.

Why would you want to that? Wouldn't it go against your amateur nihilism and vehement apostasy?

Reply 31

User1310602

Original post by faketitle

Why would you want to that? Wouldn't it go against your amateur nihilism and vehement apostasy?

I'm suppose I'm just curious. It would be an unique experience. Well I am an amateur nihilist. :wink:

Performing Hajj wouldn't make me any less of an Ex-Muslim.

Reply 32

Plantagenet Crown

I find it ridiculous that non-muslims aren't allowed in Mecca, I mean for God's sake.

Reply 33

DeathGuardElite

Original post by shouldbestudying

I'm suppose I'm just curious. It would be an unique experience. Well I am an amateur nihilist. :wink:

Performing Hajj wouldn't make me any less of an Ex-Muslim.

pffft you amateur nihilist i am a 3 school nihilist XD
Political
Moral
Existential

:P

Reply 34

Dilsz

To the OP: Good luck on that.

Reply 35

Joaqueem

Original post by Reform

O you who have believed, indeed the polytheists are unclean, so let them not approach al-Masjid al-Haram after this, their [final] year. And if you fear privation, Allah will enrich you from His bounty if He wills. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Wise. (9:28)

Who decides who is a polytheist?

Original post by Reform

The meaning is someone who is spiritually impure thus this disqualifies anyone who isn't a Muslim.

Where did you derive this meaning? Have you studied tafsir? Do you know in which context this verse was revealed?

Please provide references to support your statements if not. This is a huge example of what is causing so much damage to the image of islam. People who have no knowledge speaking about religion. How can you claim anyone that is non-muslim is "spiritually impure"?

Unbelievable.

Reply 36

User1310602

Original post by DeathGuardElite

pffft you amateur nihilist i am a 3 school nihilist XD
Political
Moral
Existential

:P

I'm jealous. :P What's your secret?

Reply 37

DeathGuardElite

Original post by shouldbestudying

I'm jealous. :P What's your secret?

ah but its a secret :P
also a tad off topic XD

PM me if you wanna know about those schools of nihilism :P also i'd like you to tell me why you say you're an "amateur" nihilist XD

Reply 38

Nader_KSA

You can visit Mecca the city but you can't visit the actual mosque 'the Kaaba'. And if you do manage to sneak in the mosque and get caught I think they'll put you in jail, but then again how are they supposed to know you aren't Muslim. I'm Saudi :smile: