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Not knowing anything about the UCAS system, are you able to apply for courses that have different UCAS codes? As some Unis have the same type of teaching course to others but have a different code to 3 have one code and 2 have another just for context.
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Not knowing anything about the UCAS system, are you able to apply for courses that have different UCAS codes? As some Unis have the same type of teaching course to others but have a different code to 3 have one code and 2 have another just for context.
You can apply for different courses if you want to so different codes are fine
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You can apply for different courses if you want to so different codes are fine
Okay thanks, wanting to mainly do teaching, and so wondered, as they are all the same course but had a different code. And so, if it wasnt the case i would of been a bit stuffed on where to go, as some of the places that have the same code i dont want to go to.
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Unis do not have a universal syllabus like A levels. Every course will be different even in the same subject with the same code. The different codes for apparently the same subject can often reflect a different type of course (Education or Primary Teaching) or something like a Year Abroad or a work placement.

Btw, don't apply for subjects that are wildly different. You only have one Personal Statement which has to be focussed on why you want to study that subject. If its clear you aren't committed to that subject you risk an automatic rejection. Its okay applying for 'Primary Teaching' and 'Early Childhood Studies' together as they are very similar subjects - but not 'Primary Teaching' and 'Law for instance.
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Unis do not have a universal syllabus like A levels. Every course will be different even in the same subject with the same code. The different codes for apparently the same subject can often reflect a different type of course (Education or Primary Teaching) or something like a Year Abroad or a work placement.

Btw, don't apply for subjects that are wildly different. You only have one Personal Statement which has to be focussed on why you want to study that subject. If its clear you aren't committed to that subject you risk an automatic rejection. Its okay applying for 'Primary Teaching' and 'Early Childhood Studies' together as they are very similar subjects - but not 'Primary Teaching' and 'Law for instance.
Thanks for all that info. and they are both to do with primary teaching, but some are a BA and others a BEd. thats pretty much the only difference to them and also obviously how it is taught etc
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Just check that the course gives you QTS - qualified teacher status.

A few 'education' courses are just that - courses about education, and they don't lead to QTS.
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Just check that the course gives you QTS - qualified teacher status.

A few 'education' courses are just that - courses about education, and they don't lead to QTS.
Okay thanks, some do talk about NQTs, but nothing about QTS, will get in contact with them and ask if they do or dont. As im going to need to rethink where to go otherwise if some dont. And also one say 'with recomendation of QTS' do you know what this is?
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NQT = Newly Qualified Teacher.

ITT - Initial Teacher Training - see http://www.education.gov.uk/get-into...?sc_lang=en-GB

QTS - see http://www.education.gov.uk/get-into...teacher-status
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NQT = Newly Qualified Teacher.

ITT - Initial Teacher Training - see http://www.education.gov.uk/get-into...?sc_lang=en-GB

QTS - see http://www.education.gov.uk/get-into...teacher-status
I'm aware of what they all mean, was asking if i would get QTS from something that talked about NQTs, but it doesn't matter now, as ive found another course at the same Uni that does a QTS degree. But one other from what i can see doesn't, so ill ask and see.
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Not knowing anything about the UCAS system, are you able to apply for courses that have different UCAS codes? As some Unis have the same type of teaching course to others but have a different code to 3 have one code and 2 have another just for context.
Just to make one thing clear about course codes for anyone picking up this thread.

Once upon a time course codes were rational and systematic.

UCAS abandoned that some years ago as courses with different names and different bells and whistles proliferated. UCAS now say that there is no connection between the course code and the course. However because a lot of courses have borne the same name and structure for many years, there are clumps of courses. Therefore you will see a lot of geography L700 courses or law M100 courses. That doesn't mean that a course without those course codes is in any way inferior. In simply means that the course was new or substantially remodelled in modern times. So when Oxford revamped its psychology courses a couple of years ago psychology and linguistics ended up as CQ81.
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Just to make one thing clear about course codes for anyone picking up this thread.

Once upon a time course codes were rational and systematic.

UCAS abandoned that some years ago as courses with different names and different bells and whistles proliferated. UCAS now say that there is no connection between the course code and the course. However because a lot of courses have borne the same name and structure for many years, there are clumps of courses. Therefore you will see a lot of geography L700 courses or law M100 courses. That doesn't mean that a course without those course codes is in any way inferior. In simply means that the course was new or substantially remodelled in modern times. So when Oxford revamped its psychology courses a couple of years ago psychology and linguistics ended up as CQ81.
Okay, so some might end up having the same code than a course that is completely different to one another like you have said? to put it in an easier context?
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Okay, so some might end up having the same code than a course that is completely different to one another like you have said? to put it in an easier context?
Courses with the same code should have the same name and basic structure but may have radically different content


e.g Oxford's history course is V100 as is Sussex's

For Oxford the basic course starts in 370AD (this is an innovation, the course used to start in 285AD)

For Sussex the basic course starts in 1500AD
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Courses with the same code should have the same name and basic structure but may have radically different content


e.g Oxford's history course is V100 as is Sussex's

For Oxford the basic course starts in 370AD (this is an innovation, the course used to start in 285AD)

For Sussex the basic course starts in 1500AD
What happened between 285 and 370AD that stopped being important or worthy of study recently?
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Courses with the same code should have the same name and basic structure but may have radically different content


e.g Oxford's history course is V100 as is Sussex's

For Oxford the basic course starts in 370AD (this is an innovation, the course used to start in 285AD)

For Sussex the basic course starts in 1500AD
Okay, kinda got it now, thanks
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What happened between 285 and 370AD that stopped being important or worthy of study recently?
It takes the assumption of the Dominate by Diocletian and Christianisation of the Empire under Constantine and his successors off the syllabus


I think it is a change in attitude from the Victorian constitutional historians for whom the creation of the Dominate was an enormously significant event and for whom the Roman Empire was still crafting beautiful law in 600AD and the modern social and cultural historians who noticed that at some point we all stopped having baths and central heating and pretending to be Derek Jacobi.
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It takes the assumption of the Dominate by Diocletian and Christianisation of the Empire under Constantine and his successors off the syllabus


I think it is a change in attitude from the Victorian constitutional historians for whom the creation of the Dominate was an enormously significant event and for whom the Roman Empire was still crafting beautiful law in 600AD and the modern social and cultural historians who noticed that at some point we all stopped having baths and central heating and pretending to be Derek Jacobi.
You may have pretended to be Derek Jacobi. For me, it was all about Sian Phillips.
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