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Basically, I'm halfway through uni and I absolutely hate it. It is in a small town, over 3 hours from my home in the East Midlands, and I literally have one real friend here. I feel that I would be a lot happier if I moved to London. My uni friend is from London, and is considering moving there and commuting for third year. One of my bestfriends from back home lives and goes to uni in London, and I often go down to visit, and my other bestfriend, who studies an hour from London, goes down as well. I feel like I belong in London. I always feel instantly at home there, even when by myself.

All things considered, would it be crazy for me to move to London, and commute to uni a few days a week? The commute is just under an hour by train, and if I buy advance tickets (with my student railcard) it would cost me £12-14 a roundtrip. If I got a house/flatshare with friends it would end up cheaper than a one bed here (I was considering living alone final year). I am just more unhappy than not being here. It bloody sucks.

So guys, can I have your opinions? I don't feel like I could take another year and a half in this one-horse town. I am planning to head straight there after uni, why not go a little earlier?
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Well that all sounds a bit rubbish so first of all *hug*!

I think the most important thing is for you to be happy as a person and if that means moving to London then so be it. It is scientifically proven happier you = better work and focus.

However I do think that commuting would be quite tiring and that paying for the train on top of the higher cost of living in London would be quite hard going.

So basically I am saying do it!-but also find a bloody good way of managing your money!

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I might get a work placement year that I applied for. I passed the first stage, but they've yet to invite me to the next, although they did say that I was still being considered. If I get it, I will be in London for a year. I wouldn't be able to see myself leaving London at the end of the year, so I could stay in London, and commute for final year.

That is probably the most likely way of me moving to London for third year. If I don't get it, I will still seriously consider moving down. Like you said, it's about happiness really. Thanks for replying!
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There's absolutely no way that a 3 hour commute is doable. That's how far away I am from home, and there's no way that it would be feasible. I know of someone (friend of friends) who decided to try and commute from Birmingham to Manchester (about 1.5 hours on the train). Last I heard he'd managed to get to uni twice in an entire semester...

Would you consider commuting in from a nearby city? For instance, if you were at Loughborough, you could come from Leicester or Nottingham, which would be a much less painful commute.
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There's absolutely no way that a 3 hour commute is doable.
Lol, my family home is three hours away, but London is under an hour from my uni town. I am considering moving to London, and commuting to uni.
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The reality of living in London is very different to visiting it for a few weekends each year.

Living in London is very expensive. Your rent will be much higher, and everything will probably cost more. There's a reason that students at London universities are entitled to a higher loan. In third year, you don't want to be working lots of hours, and it may be hard to find a job that works around your university comitments. Don't commit to anything until you've worked out how you're going to pay for it.

It's very unlikely that you'll be living right on top of the train station that gives the most direct route to your uni, so you need to factor in extra time to your journey. This could easily be up to an hour, or could be even more. This will also add extra expense to your commute, as you'll have faires on the tube or buses. Unlike on the train, where you may be able to work productively, this time will be wasted each day. Even excluding this, once you've factored in time waiting for trains and delays, your door to door commute will definately be longer than an hour. It will be harder to motivate yourself to go in.

I do think a commute of an hour is usually doable, but I don't think that will be the reality of a commute from London. Also most people commute to save money, whereas this plan will cost you a lot more.

Instead of going ahead with this, why not make an effort to get more involved in uni social life? Join a society. Talk to more people. Make more of an effort to socialise. It sounds like you'd be happier if you had more friends, and there are loads of ways to meet people at uni.
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(Original post by SlowlorisIncognito)
Instead of going ahead with this, why not make an effort to get more involved in uni social life? Join a society. Talk to more people. Make more of an effort to socialise. It sounds like you'd be happier if you had more friends, and there are loads of ways to meet people at uni.
Thanks for your response. I'm thinking of getting a part-time internship (I've applied for a couple so far) and spending a couple of days a week in London instead, moving there is a bit much. I joined a society, and I advanced really quickly, but I have far too much responsibility, and it is just making me deeply unhappy. I can't quit because a lot of people are relying on me. I have tried to make more friends, but I feel like the vast majority of people don't 'get' me, and don't really want to, and have nothing in common with me. I can be quite socially awkward, and I think, with my accent, it comes across as being stuck-up and snobbish. i.e. if there is someone I sort of know, I feel awkward saying hello, or I don't realise who it is, then realise afterwards and feel terrible for ignoring them.

A society is still a part of uni though, and I don't want uni to consume my life, because that is what is making me unhappy. Being here, at this uni, in this awful town, it's all I have going on in my life, and it drives me insane. I just want to be around like-minded people, and this university will never give me that. I need regular time away, and working in London a couple of days a week will give me that, and a valid reason to give for leaving my society to the society president.
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I need regular time away, and working in London a couple of days a week will give me that, and a valid reason to give for leaving my society to the society president.
This will be a lot to take on in third year. Will it be possible to balance this with your studies? Where will you stay whilst you're working in London? Maybe a summer internship during the holidays would be a better option?

I can see why you want to do it, although I would argue that while you're at university, university is supposed to consume your life to an extent. If your role in the society is too all consuming, you don't need to give a reason to quit. Just say it's making you unhappy and leave. If you don't consider the people involved your friends, then it doesn't really matter if this annoys them.
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This will be a lot to take on in third year. Will it be possible to balance this with your studies? Where will you stay whilst you're working in London? Maybe a summer internship during the holidays would be a better option?

I can see why you want to do it, although I would argue that while you're at university, university is supposed to consume your life to an extent. If your role in the society is too all consuming, you don't need to give a reason to quit. Just say it's making you unhappy and leave. If you don't consider the people involved your friends, then it doesn't really matter if this annoys them.
I am going to trial it during my current second year, and see how I can handle it this year. I will hope to extend my hours over the summer, and return to one/two days when third year starts. If it proves too much after a week or two, then I will give my notice.

I won't need somewhere to stay, as my uni town is less than an hour away by train London, and the internships I apply for are flexible, and for one or two days a week, which can be non-consecutive. During term I will commute, but during summer I will rent in London, as I will hope to work a lot more hours. I was planning to spend the summer in London anyway, and it would be much better if I actually had something constructive to do!

The society does make me very unhappy, so I should simply leave, but I would feel really quite guilty (I am prone to guilt, it's annoying) unless I had a practical reason to leave as well. I am in charge of a team that doesn't listen to me, do their tasks, or show up to meetings, so I have been pretty demotivated for months now. I will hear back from the two I have applied for so far by the end of the month, and I am working on a third application today. As soon as I receive any kind of positive response, I will meet up with the society president, and leave.

Life is far too short for me to continue to do things that make me unhappy, and as leaving university is out of the question, anything I can do to improve my quality of life must be done.
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i think trying to transfer uni is a better option if you really hate it.
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Have you honestly considered the costs of this properly? I don't know how much your rent is where you live but the guy I'm seeing pays £600 a month for his room in Elephant and Castle which isn't even a nice part of London…and Student Finance won't give you more because you don't go to a uni in London. I think you need t carefully consider whether you can balance the amount of employment you would need to take on in order to afford higher rent and the cost of all this travel, and whether or not you will successfully balance this around your studies. Whilst I agree that being happier = better grades, working more at a job/studying less because you are worn out =/= better grades. So it might end up not even having a positive effect on your degree after all.
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Thanks all, I have decided not to move to London for final year. I am, however, looking for internships that I can do during term time, for one or two days a week. I have applied to a couple so far. I just need some time away from here, because I cannot take 8-9 straight weeks in this town. I'm going home next weekend, but obviously, it isn't something I can simply keep doing.

So, summary, not moving to London for final year, and looking for one/two days a week experience in a field I'm really excited about, in London, so I can have some distance from my uni and uni town, and feel less stifled.
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Have you honestly considered the costs of this properly? I don't know how much your rent is where you live but the guy I'm seeing pays £600 a month for his room in Elephant and Castle which isn't even a nice part of London…and Student Finance won't give you more because you don't go to a uni in London. I think you need t carefully consider whether you can balance the amount of employment you would need to take on in order to afford higher rent and the cost of all this travel, and whether or not you will successfully balance this around your studies. Whilst I agree that being happier = better grades, working more at a job/studying less because you are worn out =/= better grades. So it might end up not even having a positive effect on your degree after all.
Thanks, I have decided not to make the move for third year, but for the record, my parents pay my rent. I would have been looking at East London anyway, because there is a direct Liverpool Street and Stratford train with about four stops that goes to my university town. But, anyway, I'm not going through with it. It doesn't really make much sense now that I think about it. A couple of days a week in London gaining experience in my intended career should be enough for me!
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i think trying to transfer uni is a better option if you really hate it.
I tried transferring in first year and was rejected at the first stage, EXTRA, and clearing, despite the fact that I was on (and achieved, and am still achieving) a strong first. I'm in second year now, so transferring out for third year is pretty much impossible anyway.
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I tried transferring in first year and was rejected at the first stage, EXTRA, and clearing, despite the fact that I was on (and achieved, and am still achieving) a strong first. I'm in second year now, so transferring out for third year is pretty much impossible anyway.
Fair enough. I think you should do it if you're mind is set. You can even do some work on the commute so you don't have to do any when you get back, making it productive and not a waste of time.
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Fair enough. I think you should do it if you're mind is set. You can even do some work on the commute so you don't have to do any when you get back, making it productive and not a waste of time.
I'm moving there for the summer, and I may give commuting a go for the first week or so of third year, and stay in London if I can handle it. It just seems like basically the only way I could make my situation a little better. That or interning in London a couple days a week, starting from this term.
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