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Why do the west hates communism/marxism/socialism?

Karl Marx's theory has been proven to be right and it is accepted by many. He also predicted how the industrial revolution will result in a society of inequality and the how the greed of the capitalist will destroy the society. He also correctly predicted how the rise of machines will replace man labour and create lesser employments.

there is no doubt that he is a genius, but the west, notably america thinks his theory is a plague and poison and often demonize it. why?

If there is no karl marx, where do you think your NHS and Obamacare comes from?

Let me remind you which party is ruling now in france.

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It is seen as kl to hate communist. Bet you average Joe couldn't even tell you correctly what Communism/Marxism is.
Reply 2
I doubt many have a problem with socialism as a concept in the West. It seems to mainly be USA that hates it with a passion, likely due their government demonising the system along with the USSR over the last couple of centuries.
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Let me remind you how many french people (Especially wealthy Parisians) are moving to London because of the new French Government, great for our capitalist economy!

Why are they moving away if the idea is so damn good?
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Original post by Apocrypha
Let me remind you how many french people (Especially wealthy Parisians) are moving to London because of the new French Government, great for our capitalist economy!

Why are they moving away if the idea is so damn good?

tax evaders
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Original post by cyxstudio
tax evaders


Because the government put the taxes so high, did Marx want high taxes?
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Original post by Apocrypha
Because the government put the taxes so high, did Marx want high taxes?

i dare not answer this question with the risk of being a fool as marx's theory is too complicated for me to answer with a single word

marx wants the value of an economic service or product to be determined by the costs of its production and not manipulated by market makers.
Original post by cyxstudio
i dare not answer this question with the risk of being a fool as marx's theory is too complicated for me to answer with a single word

marx wants the value of an economic service or product to be determined by the costs of its production and not manipulated by market makers.


Does that not already happen in a competitive market though?
Original post by cyxstudio
Karl Marx's theory has been proven to be right

What?
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There's also the idea of individuality in the west. People strive to be the lone wolf who rises above others, there's a certain greed involved that helps feed capitalism; the desire to constantly want better, to "one up" our neighbours. Not to mention the greedy and wealthy corporate CEO's clinging on to their massive wealth for dear life.
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Original post by ihatebrownbread
Does that not already happen in a competitive market though?

many of marx theory are in practice already.
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Original post by pkozman
There's also the idea of individuality in the west. People strive to be the lone wolf who rises above others, there's a certain greed involved that helps feed capitalism; the desire to constantly want better, to "one up" our neighbours. Not to mention the greedy and wealthy corporate CEO's clinging on to their massive wealth for dear life.

humans are social beings. without social interaction we cannot grow and develop and certainly not survive.
Original post by cyxstudio
many of marx theory are in practice already.


Cost-free services, like a health service arent really a product of Marxism, more a product of morality.

Could you list all Marxist theories at works in the West?
Original post by cyxstudio
humans are social beings. without social interaction we cannot grow and develop and certainly not survive.


Humans are also greedy and have unlimited wants, take away their ambition to be rich and successful and productivity withers.
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Original post by Apocrypha
Cost-free services, like a health service arent really a product of Marxism, more a product of morality.

Could you list all Marxist theories at works in the West?


I dont really know it well enough i am afraid :frown: and i dont want to simply point out things only to be refuted and look like a fool.

I just went to a seminar about marxism and am deeply attracted to it so i open a thread about.
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Original post by Apocrypha
Humans are also greedy and have unlimited wants, take away their ambition to be rich and successful and productivity withers.

we humans are horrible aren't we :closedeyes:
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Original post by cyxstudio
humans are social beings. without social interaction we cannot grow and develop and certainly not survive.


You're completely right, however I meant to highlight the desire to stand out from the crowd many people have.
Original post by cyxstudio
humans are social beings. without social interaction we cannot grow and develop and certainly not survive.


Humans have survived for thousands of years. We have also developed for thousands of years.

Communism is just a little blip that occurred in the 20th century and will be consigned to the history books completely in the future.
Original post by cyxstudio
we humans are horrible aren't we :closedeyes:


If you're a communist, be a communist, give all your wealth away, and see where it leaves you.
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Original post by Apocrypha
Humans have survived for thousands of years. We have also developed for thousands of years.

Communism is just a little blip that occurred in the 20th century and will be consigned to the history books completely in the future.


communism and marxism is a compulsory subject to study in most top universities in the economy field.

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