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    Anyone see WinterWatch on TV yesterday doing urban foxes running around the streets?!

    I personally think they are dangerous and dont like them having the freedom to get in peoples gardens and houses, let alone run around the streets eating what they can find or steal!

    Do you agree there should be fox culls allowed as urban foxes are a big problem for alot of people and have bitten/attacked children in houses!!!!!!!!!!!

    (I don't hunt or horseride) but they should Lift the fox hunting ban because>>>>>

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...s-8488712.html … …http://fw.to/YcQGOkhhttp://shar.es/9ao41http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/10...ews/?ref=fbrec … …
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    I swear you've made a thread about this already? Anyways:

    (Original post by Carol R. Lawson)
    Anyone see WinterWatch on TV yesterday doing urban foxes running around the streets?!

    I personally think they are dangerous and dont like them having the freedom to get in peoples gardens and houses, let alone run around the streets eating what they can find or steal!

    Do you agree there should be fox culls allowed as urban foxes are a big problem for alot of people and have bitten/attacked children in houses!!!!!!!!!!!

    Personal opinion =/= fact.

    (Original post by Carol R. Lawson)
    (I don't hunt or horseride) but they should Lift the fox hunting ban because>>>>>
    These ''worst fox attacks'' are hardly anything to be worked up about. Out of the four stories (yes, four, so much for foxes being a ''big problem for a lot of people'', as you say), one was the fault of the child and the others really beg the question as to how the fox even managed to get to the child (did the parents stupidly leave a door open?).

    The second article doesn't add much to your arguement. Again, it details just one story, and does not give any evidence that fox attacks are a significant problem (no statistics here). As for the ''experts'' claiming that a fox cull is needed: they'd have the vested interest to say this as they'd benefit financially if fox culls were to occur.

    The third article contributes no more than the first. If anything, it's a repeat.

    Please provide me evidence that fox attacks have been a significant problem to more than just half a dozen families in the last 10 years and maybe i'd reconsider.
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    Firstly, there is no real evidence that foxes are dangerous in any way, the few cases of foxes attacking people, which have been reported over the past few years, are very suspect to say the least. Removing them from urban environments would be all but impossible. Foxes can withstand a loss of more than 50% of the breeding population without overall numbers being affected. Culls to reduce the population would, at best, be only temporary and cost a huge amount and any vacant territory would rapidly be taken by itinerant foxes from elsewhere. Finally, fox hunting with dogs does not, and never did. have any affect on fox numbers. Hunters know full well that hunting has no affect on overall numbers in an area.
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    I don't really like them because they make a horribly distressing noise then they fight and their poo is the worst and most disgusting of any animal I've seen.

    They don't need to be controlled though as they are no threat to humans and any cases of aggression towards humans are very are.

    In many ways I feel sorry for them because they have a harsh existence.
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    I can't even recall the last time I saw an urban fox, much less been troubled by them.

    I thus care not.
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    There is hunting and there is fox hunting.

    All of it should be done for the correct purposes.
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    ......and here's ANOTHER news article about a fox attack!!!!!! (in addition to the ones I linked in my OP)

    https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...60444564,d.ZG4
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    (Original post by Carol R. Lawson)
    ......and here's ANOTHER news article about a fox attack!!!!!! (in addition to the ones I linked in my OP)

    https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...60444564,d.ZG4
    You've just ignored everything people have said above, including criticism. Well done. Thank you for spending time to at least respond to the people that spent time responding to your original post, not. -.-

    Once again, the article you have posted does not give enough evidence that urban foxes are so much of a problem that they ought to be dealt with. One/two cases of 'dangerous' urban fox attacks (which I expect are just down to bad parenting/care) do NOT call for a lift on the fox hunting ban.
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    (Original post by Studentus-anonymous)
    I can't even recall the last time I saw an urban fox, much less been troubled by them.

    I thus care not.
    I and friends of mine have seen them quite frequently and heard them at night howling/crying out really loud. Not been troubled by one personally but I wouldn't go near one.
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    (Original post by Alfissti)
    There is hunting and there is fox hunting.

    All of it should be done for the correct purposes.
    I agree and I think I've highlighted/explained the purposes and need/benefits for culls/foxhunting!
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    (Original post by Scumbaggio)
    I don't really like them because they make a horribly distressing noise then they fight and their poo is the worst and most disgusting of any animal I've seen.

    They don't need to be controlled though as they are no threat to humans and any cases of aggression towards humans are very are.

    In many ways I feel sorry for them because they have a harsh existence.
    I hate the noise they make too! Plus how many attacks have to happen before action should be taken?
    The news says they have been a threat to people (young children/babies can't fight back)!
    They don't politely beg for treats or roll over to get tickled! haha. They just steal food from bins and drag it into the street so also a hygiene hazard!
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    (Original post by Carol R. Lawson)
    I hate the noise they make too! Plus how many attacks have to happen before action should be taken?
    The news says they have been a threat to people (young children/babies can't fight back)!
    They don't politely beg for treats or roll over to get tickled! haha. They just steal food from bins and drag it into the street so also a hygiene hazard!
    Is there any evidence that foxes do these things so frequently that we must cull the animal?

    The articles you've provided only detail about 8 cases in the last 10 years. I do not view that as a big deal.
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    The foxes I see are always scared. If they're that much of a problem close doors lock windows.

    It doesn't justify killing them
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    (Original post by Carol R. Lawson)
    Anyone see WinterWatch on TV yesterday doing urban foxes running around the streets?!

    I personally think they are dangerous and dont like them having the freedom to get in peoples gardens and houses, let alone run around the streets eating what they can find or steal!

    Do you agree there should be fox culls allowed as urban foxes are a big problem for alot of people and have bitten/attacked children in houses!!!!!!!!!!!

    (I don't hunt or horseride) but they should Lift the fox hunting ban because>>>>>

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...s-8488712.html … …http://fw.to/YcQGOkhhttp://shar.es/9ao41http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/10...ews/?ref=fbrec … …
    No, I disagree with you. Urban foxes, insofar as they are a problem, are a creation of irresponsible human behaviour - clamp down on uneaten fast-food being thrown into hedges (etc) and the fox population, as well as the rat population, will diminish. It's our problem, foxes, and rats for that matter, are only doing what comes naturally, seeking out and making a home of places where there's a good food supply. There's also the problem of increasing numbers of people feeding foxes by hand in their gardens and/or trying to tempt them into their homes. This desensitises the foxes to human contact, another bad idea. It's not the fault of the foxes so leave them alone. Also fox-hunting is just an excuse for horsy types to dress up, ride around and kill something.
 
 
 
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