TSR Tennis Society IV

But this is grass, so you never know.

olympic gold, bro and one wimbledon title (both runs including victories over Nole)

Murray reached the SF of RG with no coach, I was dissapointed with the score but he was extremely tired.
Murray has shown he can easily beat Roger and Noel on grass (Olympics and Wimbledon).

So if someone takes out Nadal for him I think he can easily win it again, Nadal did go out in the 1R last time and it is his weakest surface where as RG was his strongest so who knows.

Murrays biggest threat is Novak but hopefully he won't have to meet him until the final, I want Murray to win at least one slam this year!

2 Wimbledon's to 1 though very debatable this.

If Rog plays Rafa and somehow beats him (not likely, but possible) then he's winning the tournament, no question about it.

I agree but yeah I doubt he'd get the better of Nadal unless Nadal bows out early again and he's in the same side of the draw as Fed

The one disappointing thing about Wimbledon is that even though John Inverdale has been "axed" from presenting it on Radio 5, they've picked up Claire Balding instead which is perhaps equally bad!

Murray's a more natural grass-courter than Djoko IMO so if they do meet, Andy can just move him round the court, unsettle him (footing-wise). For Murray, I worry more about Nadal and Federer as far as Wimbledon itself is concerned

Yes - the chances are low now, even on grass. The thinking in that case would be that every time Fed has beaten Nadal, he's won the tournament - probably a confidence issue

The one disappointing thing about Wimbledon is that even though John Inverdale has been "axed" from presenting it on Radio 5, they've picked up Claire Balding instead which is perhaps equally bad!

Don't forget about Andrew Castle mate.

Urgh. Yeah equally bad for sure - both have a track record of making out-of-line comments about athletes. Both are generally odious presenters. I wish they'd just ax Inverdale altogether and get someone good.

Shame Eurosport don't have Wimbledon, because I love listening to Mats Wilander, as well as Frew MacMillan, Chris Bradnam et al. Generally more insightful than the BBC coverage.

Due to his lower seeding I think it will be much harder for him, we will have to see.
Dunno about Roger with his 1st round exit last year, I think he should be easier to beat on the grass as the ball is a lot slower than on hard court.

Nadal too had a 1R exit but is at his prime again I guess, if Novak faces Murray before the finals and Nadal is through he will want revenge for the french.

Hopefully the crowd will help Murray!

His seeding won't be that low - the Wimbledon seeding formula ensures that he'll be No. 3 in all likelihood, so that's good news for us and for him.
The crowd, whilst very respectful of other players, should absolutely be behind Andy - I can just picture it on the first day of the Championships, Murray walking out at 1pm on Centre Court to rapturous applause!

I dont think the Wimbledon crowd is all that bad tbh

RG crowd is horrible, they should have more respect for the players

People keep hyping Djokovic saying that he will beat Nadal at RG because he was able to overcome Nadal at other clay tournaments. Well, they keep forgetting that Nadal is a different animal at the FO and just like Federer, Novak will have to hope that someone takes out Rafa early otherwise he ain't gonna complete the career slam.

Yeah, the RG crowd is by far the worst. They're rabidly partisan to French players (and Roger Federer) and will always boo and whistle when a player even gestures towards checking a line on the clay. There have been a few matches where the crowd actively intervenes - take Djokovic's match against Federer in the French Open of 2011, where the crowd was a huge factor. They're despicable and actively rooted against Nadal when he was beaten by Soderling in 2009. Even now a 9 time winner I doubt they'll be that more receptive next year; thankfully today Rafa had good Spanish support - and at least a sizeable conitngent of the French fans that actually like him - in-house.

The Wimbledon crowd is much better in comparison (not the best though, that honour lies with the Aussies) but I'll never forget the way they wilted in support for Murray in that final he played against Federer in 2012. After supporting him when it looked promising, they went away when Federer got the upper hand and could have tried a lot harder. A lot of them are patriotic glory supporters I suspect, only there for Murray when he's looking likely to win the title.

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The Wimbledon crowd is much better in comparison (not the best though, that honour lies with the Aussies) but I'll never forget the way they wilted in support for Murray in that final he played against Federer in 2012. After supporting him when it looked promising, they went away when Federer got the upper hand and could have tried a lot harder. A lot of them are patriotic glory supporters I suspect, only there for Murray when he's looking likely to win the title.

I don't think Rafa is a different animal here. I just think he has a psychological confidence being unbeaten (bar 1) and this year the court was definitely slower.

Really? I heard the courts were faster this year.