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    Hi all,

    Basically I have my driving test tomorrow. I consider myself a good driver and can do all maneuvers very well and can drive around fine.

    The only problem I have is going from fourth to fifth on dual carriageways. Almost EVERY time I attempt to go into fifth I go into third instead, obviously the car makes a horrendous noise and I go back into fourth and try again. Then I try to go into fifth again but I go into third again. Eventually I get it right after lots of coaxing from my instructor. Obviously tomorrow I will be expected to make a seamless transition, without any help from the examiner.

    Does anyone have any advice on changing into fifth gear that might help me? At the moment I try moving to the right and up, but it seems to lock for some reason? I'm sure there's nothing wrong with the car as my examiner teaches 12+ people a week who have no problems with this, so it must be something I'm doing wrong.

    I'd love some advice as I've had an examiner in the car before checking my examiners teaching who said I was a great driver, so I would love any advice on how to solve this issue.

    Thanks
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    (Original post by bramley)
    Hi all,

    Basically I have my driving test tomorrow. I consider myself a good driver and can do all maneuvers very well and can drive around fine.

    The only problem I have is going from fourth to fifth on dual carriageways. Almost EVERY time I attempt to go into fifth I go into third instead, obviously the car makes a horrendous noise and I go back into fourth and try again. Then I try to go into fifth again but I go into third again. Eventually I get it right after lots of coaxing from my instructor. Obviously tomorrow I will be expected to make a seamless transition, without any help from the examiner.

    Does anyone have any advice on changing into fifth gear that might help me? At the moment I try moving to the right and up, but it seems to lock for some reason? I'm sure there's nothing wrong with the car as my examiner teaches 12+ people a week who have no problems with this, so it must be something I'm doing wrong.

    I'd love some advice as I've had an examiner in the car before checking my examiners teaching who said I was a great driver, so I would love any advice on how to solve this issue.

    Thanks

    I didn't even end up going in 5th gear during my test.

    But as long as you FIX it, they can't fail you. So if you go into 3rd, don't panic, just go back into 4th calmly.

    Best of luck
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    (Original post by bramley)
    Hi all,

    Basically I have my driving test tomorrow. I consider myself a good driver and can do all maneuvers very well and can drive around fine.

    The only problem I have is going from fourth to fifth on dual carriageways. Almost EVERY time I attempt to go into fifth I go into third instead, obviously the car makes a horrendous noise and I go back into fourth and try again. Then I try to go into fifth again but I go into third again. Eventually I get it right after lots of coaxing from my instructor. Obviously tomorrow I will be expected to make a seamless transition, without any help from the examiner.

    Does anyone have any advice on changing into fifth gear that might help me? At the moment I try moving to the right and up, but it seems to lock for some reason? I'm sure there's nothing wrong with the car as my examiner teaches 12+ people a week who have no problems with this, so it must be something I'm doing wrong.

    I'd love some advice as I've had an examiner in the car before checking my examiners teaching who said I was a great driver, so I would love any advice on how to solve this issue.

    Thanks
    Can you not spend sometime tonight in a parents car parked up just changing from 4th to 5th? It'll just be practice that is needed.
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    (Original post by bubble999)
    I didn't even end up going in 5th gear during my test.

    But as long as you FIX it, they can't fail you. So if you go into 3rd, don't panic, just go back into 4th calmly.

    Best of luck
    Did you go on the dual carriageway? I don't really know how many test routes use the dual carriageway knowing my luck I'll go on it in the first five minutes. Ok, I'm ok with going back into fourth, I'm just worried they'll be expecting me to try fifth again!

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    (Original post by CJG21)
    Can you not spend sometime tonight in a parents car parked up just changing from 4th to 5th? It'll just be practice that is needed.
    I have a lesson before my test tomorrow, so I could ask her to practice stationary then. Unfortunately I seem to go back to square one whenever I actually get on the road!
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    Reaching the last gear is just a matter of pushing the gear stick as far right as possible and the pushing it up, it should be a smooth action.



    See how the line from 4th goes into neutral--right--and then up? (sorry if I sound patronising, I'm just making it simple). Just follow what it shows on the joy stick and don't push the gear stick straight up into 3rd, get into neutral then push right and then up. You will only need to get into 5th gear of a dual carriage way to meet the speed limit, luckily if it's busy you will not even have to go into 5th.

    Hope I helped and good luck:yy:
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    (Original post by bramley)
    I have a lesson before my test tomorrow, so I could ask her to practice stationary then. Unfortunately I seem to go back to square one whenever I actually get on the road!
    You may just be panicking when you get there. Try taking your time with the gear change. Make sure you find neutral and then push right. It's the same action as going 2-3.
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    (Original post by pinda.college)
    Reaching the last gear is just a matter of pushing the gear stick as far right as possible and the pushing it up, it should be a smooth action.



    See how the line from 4th goes into neutral--right--and then up? (sorry if I sound patronising, I'm just making it simple). Just follow what it shows on the joy stick and don't push the gear stick straight up into 3rd, get into neutral then push right and then up. You will only need to get into 5th gear of a dual carriage way to meet the speed limit, luckily if it's busy you will not even have to go into 5th.

    Hope I helped and good luck:yy:
    Thanks! I have no problems going into reverse so I think I may be trying to push at the wrong angle if that makes sense, I'll try and follow this tomorrow and hopefully I'll be ok.

    Thank you!
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    (Original post by bramley)
    Did you go on the dual carriageway? I don't really know how many test routes use the dual carriageway knowing my luck I'll go on it in the first five minutes. Ok, I'm ok with going back into fourth, I'm just worried they'll be expecting me to try fifth again!

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    No, but went on a 60mph single road. But as long as you get up to 4th gear, you should be marked as an "eco safe" driver (there is a box for that on the results sheet).

    Maybe work up on your gears slowly - like go into 3rd when you're on there, then go into 4th and hope you are then near the end of it. They will only expect you to go up to 5th when you are on the dual carriage way for a while (so just hope you get a short section of it :lol: )

    They won't fail you for it, as long as you keep up with the speed in 4th, they can't do you for slow progress :nod: So yeah, if you do try and go into 5th and it doesn't go well, just fix it I tried to pull away in 3rd by mistake in my test, but realised and fixed it - didn't even get a minor for it

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    I just dont understand in what universe it would be logical to ask a stranger for advice, rather than your instructor who should not only have expertise in driving, but also in teaching others to drive. And they should also know their car in and out.

    On that note, have you also asked your dentist on how to find 5th gear? Perhaps he could help.
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    (Original post by bramley)
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    What I've found best is to push towards the gear you want to get into as you push it towards neutral. So from third, get your hand around the gear stick and pull it towards you as you push it forward. When it goes forward into neutral, you should feel it shove over into the right position for you to get it into fifth. From there keep pulling it towards you as you push it forward into fifth, just to make sure it doesn't slip into the middle. I had a similar issue with my car when I started driving after I passed my test, because third looks like it should be first, so I kept changing into fifth instead of third and fourth instead of second. Not to mention pulling off in third If you're looking down when you change, try not to - you should be relying on feeling the gears anyway.

    Also, pro-tip: Don't pull it towards you too hard or when you go into neutral it'll slip over and you'll probably let go.
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    I would say try transitioning into 5th gear a bit slower. Calm down, slowly build up speed and make the switch smoothly. If you happen to go into 3rd, be assertive and just go back into 4th. Good luck
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    (Original post by CJG21)
    You may just be panicking when you get there. Try taking your time with the gear change. Make sure you find neutral and then push right. It's the same action as going 2-3.
    Ok, I'll try and change gears more slowly. Do you need to push harder though? Maybe I'm just not pushing hard enough so it slips into 3 instead?
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    (Original post by bigwhalegambler)
    I just dont understand in what universe it would be logical to ask a stranger for advice, rather than your instructor who should not only have expertise in driving, but also in teaching others to drive. And they should also know their car in and out.

    On that note, have you also asked your dentist on how to find 5th gear? Perhaps he could help.
    Don't you think this is a bit rude?? There is no harm in asking. Maybe he has asked the instructor but still wants more advice. If you have nothing useful to say then just don't comment.
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    (Original post by bramley)
    Hi all,

    Basically I have my driving test tomorrow. I consider myself a good driver and can do all maneuvers very well and can drive around fine.

    The only problem I have is going from fourth to fifth on dual carriageways. Almost EVERY time I attempt to go into fifth I go into third instead, obviously the car makes a horrendous noise and I go back into fourth and try again. Then I try to go into fifth again but I go into third again. Eventually I get it right after lots of coaxing from my instructor. Obviously tomorrow I will be expected to make a seamless transition, without any help from the examiner.

    Does anyone have any advice on changing into fifth gear that might help me? At the moment I try moving to the right and up, but it seems to lock for some reason? I'm sure there's nothing wrong with the car as my examiner teaches 12+ people a week who have no problems with this, so it must be something I'm doing wrong.

    I'd love some advice as I've had an examiner in the car before checking my examiners teaching who said I was a great driver, so I would love any advice on how to solve this issue.

    Thanks
    Not to sound silly but just make sure that you have pressed the clutch down fully, and then once you have got to neutral, push the gear stick the whole way to the right and up
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    If you're having trouble going into fifth, really i'd advise just staying in fourth.

    Going from 4th into 3rd at 60mph+ will be a major fault (at least it should be, the engine braking + lack of brake lights illuminating could cause a major incident).
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    (Original post by bramley)
    Ok, I'll try and change gears more slowly. Do you need to push harder though? Maybe I'm just not pushing hard enough so it slips into 3 instead?
    I don't know, sorry. I've only gone into 5th once. I didn't really notice much difference to any of the other gears though.
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    (Original post by bubble999)
    No, but went on a 60mph single road. But as long as you get up to 4th gear, you should be marked as an "eco safe" driver (there is a box for that on the results sheet).

    Maybe work up on your gears slowly - like go into 3rd when you're on there, then go into 4th and hope you are then near the end of it. They will only expect you to go up to 5th when you are on the dual carriage way for a while (so just hope you get a short section of it :lol: )

    They won't fail you for it, as long as you keep up with the speed in 4th, they can't do you for slow progress :nod: So yeah, if you do try and go into 5th and it doesn't go well, just fix it I tried to pull away in 3rd by mistake in my test, but realised and fixed it - didn't even get a minor for it
    Oh ok thanks, that's reassuring. I was just worried I would get marked down for 'Eco driving' but hopefully if I manage to fix it reasonably I'll be ok! Thanks for the advice!


    (Original post by bigwhalegambler)
    I just dont understand in what universe it would be logical to ask a stranger for advice, rather than your instructor who should not only have expertise in driving, but also in teaching others to drive. And they should also know their car in and out.

    On that note, have you also asked your dentist on how to find 5th gear? Perhaps he could help.
    Um, obviously I've asked my instructor. I don't think it's unreasonable to ask for advice on an issue I'm having trouble with, surely that's the point of a lot of posts on this forum. Sure no one here is probably an expert but they may have some helpful advice, as has already been seen.


    (Original post by SteelScyther)
    What I've found best is to push towards the gear you want to get into as you push it towards neutral. So from third, get your hand around the gear stick and pull it towards you as you push it forward. When it goes forward into neutral, you should feel it shove over into the right position for you to get it into fifth. From there keep pulling it towards you as you push it forward into fifth, just to make sure it doesn't slip into the middle. I had a similar issue with my car when I started driving after I passed my test, because third looks like it should be first, so I kept changing into fifth instead of third and fourth instead of second. Not to mention pulling off in third If you're looking down when you change, try not to - you should be relying on feeling the gears anyway.

    Also, pro-tip: Don't pull it towards you too hard or when you go into neutral it'll slip over and you'll probably let go.
    Ok I see what you mean thanks, this is what I tend to do to go from second to third, so hopefully it'll work for going into fifth too, thanks for your helpful advice.


    (Original post by HayleyL)
    Not to sound silly but just make sure that you have pressed the clutch down fully, and then once you have got to neutral, push the gear stick the whole way to the right and up
    Ok thank you, I'll try and practice this beforehand tomorrow!
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    (Original post by bramley)


    Um, obviously I've asked my instructor. I don't think it's unreasonable to ask for advice on an issue I'm having trouble with, surely that's the point of a lot of posts on this forum. Sure no one here is probably an expert but they may have some helpful advice, as has already been seen.
    Oh. Swear? You asked your dentist though?
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    (Original post by bigwhalegambler)
    Oh. Swear? You asked your dentist though?
    Clearly you do not have a life....go get one!
 
 
 
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