Why are gym goers seen as shallow and self-centred??

Basically, I go to the gym mainly to improve for sport, because I enjoy lifting weights (a bit), the health benefits and of course to try and look better to the opposite sex, as well as other life benefits in terms of respect.

Why do a number of girls (and boys) look down on lads pumping iron in order to attract members of the opposite sex as a bad thing? Surely they are justified in trying to extenuate their natural beauty, of lack of it thereof, by creating a physique that can set themselves up ahead of 80-90% of guys (more than 10% go to the gym but not many have the dedication/work ethic/knowledge to get 'ripped'). If anything, it should be applauded. And this is coming from someone who's only focus isn't to try and look better, although it obviously does play a part and I would do that alone if it wasn't for other things.

I know some girls that think the bodybuilder look is disgusting, but it takes a decades of hard work 3-5 times a week consistently with the right diet to get there, and often steroids. Many girls acknowledge that they prefer a toned physique, nice arms, nice thighs, chiseled chest, big back, six pack abs all as a benefit and the improvement in facial structures that comes with being 8-10% body fat. Why would everyone not accept that it is perfectly justifiable to go to the gym to look better beyond what you have been given through circumstances of birth luck?

It is an enjoyable hobby that takes max 1-2 hours 4-5 times a week - hardly much time and it isn't easy.

Discuss.

well Im the same as a female I enjoy lifting weights and having as low bf as possible but it puts men off they just see it as disgusting. I don't think people who lift get that much more respect than anyone else. If you live in an area where things are sorted out by fights maybe put these days people are boring its all about career, how much you earn and for women..make up, clothes and hairstyle lol.

I like the toned muscular look (within reason) though on both males and females even if other people don't.

Basically, I go to the gym mainly to improve for sport, because I enjoy lifting weights (a bit), the health benefits and of course to try and look better to the opposite sex, as well as other life benefits in terms of respect.

Why do a number of girls (and boys) look down on lads pumping iron in order to attract members of the opposite sex as a bad thing? Surely they are justified in trying to extenuate their natural beauty, of lack of it thereof, by creating a physique that can set themselves up ahead of 80-90% of guys (more than 10% go to the gym but not many have the dedication/work ethic/knowledge to get 'ripped'). If anything, it should be applauded. And this is coming from someone who's only focus isn't to try and look better, although it obviously does play a part and I would do that alone if it wasn't for other things.

I know some girls that think the bodybuilder look is disgusting, but it takes a decades of hard work 3-5 times a week consistently with the right diet to get there, and often steroids. Many girls acknowledge that they prefer a toned physique, nice arms, nice thighs, chiseled chest, big back, six pack abs all as a benefit and the improvement in facial structures that comes with being 8-10% body fat. Why would everyone not accept that it is perfectly justifiable to go to the gym to look better beyond what you have been given through circumstances of birth luck?

It is an enjoyable hobby that takes max 1-2 hours 4-5 times a week - hardly much time and it isn't easy.

Discuss.

I didn't know they were. I certainly have never thought that about gym goers

I'm more so talking about the girls who talk about boys who lift weights in that way.

I'm talking about weight lifting here.

Basically, I go to the gym mainly to improve for sport, because I enjoy lifting weights (a bit), the health benefits and of course to try and look better to the opposite sex, as well as other life benefits in terms of respect.

Why do a number of girls (and boys) look down on lads pumping iron in order to attract members of the opposite sex as a bad thing? Surely they are justified in trying to extenuate their natural beauty, of lack of it thereof, by creating a physique that can set themselves up ahead of 80-90% of guys (more than 10% go to the gym but not many have the dedication/work ethic/knowledge to get 'ripped'). If anything, it should be applauded. And this is coming from someone who's only focus isn't to try and look better, although it obviously does play a part and I would do that alone if it wasn't for other things.

I know some girls that think the bodybuilder look is disgusting, but it takes a decades of hard work 3-5 times a week consistently with the right diet to get there, and often steroids. Many girls acknowledge that they prefer a toned physique, nice arms, nice thighs, chiseled chest, big back, six pack abs all as a benefit and the improvement in facial structures that comes with being 8-10% body fat. Why would everyone not accept that it is perfectly justifiable to go to the gym to look better beyond what you have been given through circumstances of birth luck?

It is an enjoyable hobby that takes max 1-2 hours 4-5 times a week - hardly much time and it isn't easy.

Discuss.

I like athletic and sport looking females as a big bonus over skinny/slightly chubbier women. That means visible abs and a nice bum mainly. Women never get 'too' big naturally.

I understand that social status and money is more important these days but surely girls still have some ancestral senses of attractiveness and what is wrong with men trying to get a little bit muscular?

Some people think that spending 1 hour+ a day on working out, plus all of the extra time cooking 6 meals a day etc. when you are already in good shape is a bit narcissistic. We're not talking working out to get healthy which most would consider essential, I mean body building here, working out in front of a mirror and that kind of thing.

Just like others might think people who have a hobby like gaming or flying model planes are wasting their time, others feel the same about excessive exercise.

I agree that people with the dedication to get ripped should be applauded, but I can also see why some people think it's a waste of time and self-centred.

People are self centered in other ways though for example most women are always shopping, fussing about what to dress themselves in, what makeup to wear. Whereas I just wear anything Ive been told I have plain crap hair on numerous occasions lol but I put all my effort into getting a good body through the gym/exercise instead.

Only judgement I tend to have (which obv isn't always right) when I see muscular guys is that they might be players. They tend to have a higher self esteem than most so why would they stay in a relationship with me when they feel confident enough to be able to get a much more attractive woman.. surely they don't do all that work just for one woman lol.

People are self centered in other ways though for example most women are always shopping, fussing about what to dress themselves in, what makeup to wear. Whereas I just wear anything Ive been told I have plain crap hair on numerous occasions lol but I put all my effort into getting a good body through the gym/exercise instead.