Help an American choose a London football club to follow
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From an unbiased Liverpool fan:
Arsenal - play beautiful football, seem to returning to past glories, have brilliant flair players but their atmosphere is the worst in the league and they haven't won anything for 8 years.
Chelsea - honestly just don't.
Fulham - bizarre, bizarre Michael Jackson statue at their ground, used to be owned by the owner of Harrods department store, Hugh Grant supports them and they are situated in a lovely/posh area with a scenic ground on the riverside but will always be struggling towards the bottom of the league.
QPR - likely to be promoted this year, a solid backbone of a squad and a lot of money for a Championship side. Loftus Road (their stadium) isn't the worst, but they have some unlikeable players in my opinion.
West Ham - fanatical support, forget about Green Street Hooligans, who play old-fashioned English football up-in-the-air with traditional English players like Andy Carroll and Kevin Nolan and a manager with a robust style. A great stadium (Upton Park) but soon to move into the Olympic Stadium and a long tradition as a club - one of the most historic clubs in the country.
My personal suggestion would be Leyton Orient.
Arsenal - play beautiful football, seem to returning to past glories, have brilliant flair players but their atmosphere is the worst in the league and they haven't won anything for 8 years.
Chelsea - honestly just don't.
Fulham - bizarre, bizarre Michael Jackson statue at their ground, used to be owned by the owner of Harrods department store, Hugh Grant supports them and they are situated in a lovely/posh area with a scenic ground on the riverside but will always be struggling towards the bottom of the league.
QPR - likely to be promoted this year, a solid backbone of a squad and a lot of money for a Championship side. Loftus Road (their stadium) isn't the worst, but they have some unlikeable players in my opinion.
West Ham - fanatical support, forget about Green Street Hooligans, who play old-fashioned English football up-in-the-air with traditional English players like Andy Carroll and Kevin Nolan and a manager with a robust style. A great stadium (Upton Park) but soon to move into the Olympic Stadium and a long tradition as a club - one of the most historic clubs in the country.
My personal suggestion would be Leyton Orient.
Original post by Skjellyfetti
I'm going to be starting a masters program at UCL next year. I've followed the EPL pretty casually for the last few years -- enough to be vaguely familiar with the larger clubs. I love sports in the US... and one thing that really excites me about spending a year in the UK will be immersing myself in your football culture to whatever extent I'll be able to.
I'm not going to choose a club to "support" from afar... because that seems so arbitrary and fake. But, I would like to pick out a team from afar to follow the rest of this season to get more acquainted with the smaller clubs. So, I'm looking for any suggestions.
Location isn't a huge factor. UCL seems to be in the vacant center of football club geography in London and there's no obvious choice here.
Premier League isn't completely necessary... though, I think I'd prefer Premier or Championship so that I may be able to find streams of the games overseas. I could be convinced to support a lower division team, however.
I've definitely eliminated Chelsea, Arsenal, and Spurs as I don't want to jump on the bandwagon of a larger club... and I'd like to be able to afford to actually attend an occasional match.
I'm leaning toward QPR and West Ham -- mainly because I'm most familiar with these two clubs from Green Street Hooligans and The Four Year Plan. But, I'm completely open to any and all suggestions. Thanks!
I'm not going to choose a club to "support" from afar... because that seems so arbitrary and fake. But, I would like to pick out a team from afar to follow the rest of this season to get more acquainted with the smaller clubs. So, I'm looking for any suggestions.
Location isn't a huge factor. UCL seems to be in the vacant center of football club geography in London and there's no obvious choice here.
Premier League isn't completely necessary... though, I think I'd prefer Premier or Championship so that I may be able to find streams of the games overseas. I could be convinced to support a lower division team, however.
I've definitely eliminated Chelsea, Arsenal, and Spurs as I don't want to jump on the bandwagon of a larger club... and I'd like to be able to afford to actually attend an occasional match.
I'm leaning toward QPR and West Ham -- mainly because I'm most familiar with these two clubs from Green Street Hooligans and The Four Year Plan. But, I'm completely open to any and all suggestions. Thanks!
You shouldn't need to think about it, follow the team you like watching and you're set!
Original post by The Assassin
Arsenal because they're the gunners and Americans love guns n shooting n stoof
And it goes well with your name
at the end of the day you're not going to identify yourself with any of those clubs so you may as well pick it out of a hat and do it that way
Original post by Mackay
From an unbiased Liverpool fan:
Arsenal - play beautiful football, seem to returning to past glories, have brilliant flair players but their atmosphere is the worst in the league and they haven't won anything for 8 years.
Chelsea - honestly just don't.
Fulham - bizarre, bizarre Michael Jackson statue at their ground, used to be owned by the owner of Harrods department store, Hugh Grant supports them and they are situated in a lovely/posh area with a scenic ground on the riverside but will always be struggling towards the bottom of the league.
QPR - likely to be promoted this year, a solid backbone of a squad and a lot of money for a Championship side. Loftus Road (their stadium) isn't the worst, but they have some unlikeable players in my opinion.
West Ham - fanatical support, forget about Green Street Hooligans, who play old-fashioned English football up-in-the-air with traditional English players like Andy Carroll and Kevin Nolan and a manager with a robust style. A great stadium (Upton Park) but soon to move into the Olympic Stadium and a long tradition as a club - one of the most historic clubs in the country.
My personal suggestion would be Leyton Orient.
Arsenal - play beautiful football, seem to returning to past glories, have brilliant flair players but their atmosphere is the worst in the league and they haven't won anything for 8 years.
Chelsea - honestly just don't.
Fulham - bizarre, bizarre Michael Jackson statue at their ground, used to be owned by the owner of Harrods department store, Hugh Grant supports them and they are situated in a lovely/posh area with a scenic ground on the riverside but will always be struggling towards the bottom of the league.
QPR - likely to be promoted this year, a solid backbone of a squad and a lot of money for a Championship side. Loftus Road (their stadium) isn't the worst, but they have some unlikeable players in my opinion.
West Ham - fanatical support, forget about Green Street Hooligans, who play old-fashioned English football up-in-the-air with traditional English players like Andy Carroll and Kevin Nolan and a manager with a robust style. A great stadium (Upton Park) but soon to move into the Olympic Stadium and a long tradition as a club - one of the most historic clubs in the country.
My personal suggestion would be Leyton Orient.
Do Arsenal have the worst atmosphere in the league?
People think of AFC as a bit of a ponce club, and we do have a lot of poncey fans, but the Emirates is definitely no quieter than Stamford Bridge/Old Trafford/WHL.
I would say the NLD is probably the best atmosphere in the country, certainly miles ahead of the Manchester Derby for instance.
Tbh the worst atmospheres in the country tend to be from horrible Northern clubs like Bolton, Blackburn, Wigan, WBA and of course Fulham.
Original post by little_tom
at the end of the day you're not going to identify yourself with any of those clubs so you may as well pick it out of a hat and do it that way
I'd actually genuinely do this if I was the OP, like a sweepstake, put all the names of FL London clubs into a hat and support the one you pick out. And if you're keen on actually going to a few matches, then someone like Brentford, Millwall or Watford would be a good shout as they son't usually fill their grounds and I doubt will charge as much as the Prem clubs to get in (though someone may correct me on that).
Original post by The Assassin
Arsenal because they're the gunners and Americans love guns n shooting n stoof
But Arsenal are quite a socialist club. Americans treat socialist like aids.
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Original post by Mackay
My personal suggestion would be Leyton Orient.
My personal suggestion would be Leyton Orient.
Why support the Os?
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Original post by 419
Nah, Spurs are the socialist club. underachievement, regular wasting of funds, a culture of envy of the high achievers down the Seven Sisters Road and unfulfilled dreams. Also they ignore past failures and expect/hope the same policies will work next time.
Original post by 419
Best club bar in the country.
Proper club is Orient.
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Original post by 419
Two words: Kevin Lisbie.
Original post by Skjellyfetti
I'm going to be starting a masters program at UCL next year. I've followed the EPL pretty casually for the last few years -- enough to be vaguely familiar with the larger clubs. I love sports in the US... and one thing that really excites me about spending a year in the UK will be immersing myself in your football culture to whatever extent I'll be able to.
I'm not going to choose a club to "support" from afar... because that seems so arbitrary and fake. But, I would like to pick out a team from afar to follow the rest of this season to get more acquainted with the smaller clubs. So, I'm looking for any suggestions.
Location isn't a huge factor. UCL seems to be in the vacant center of football club geography in London and there's no obvious choice here.
Premier League isn't completely necessary... though, I think I'd prefer Premier or Championship so that I may be able to find streams of the games overseas. I could be convinced to support a lower division team, however.
I've definitely eliminated Chelsea, Arsenal, and Spurs as I don't want to jump on the bandwagon of a larger club... and I'd like to be able to afford to actually attend an occasional match.
I'm leaning toward QPR and West Ham -- mainly because I'm most familiar with these two clubs from Green Street Hooligans and The Four Year Plan. But, I'm completely open to any and all suggestions. Thanks!
I'm not going to choose a club to "support" from afar... because that seems so arbitrary and fake. But, I would like to pick out a team from afar to follow the rest of this season to get more acquainted with the smaller clubs. So, I'm looking for any suggestions.
Location isn't a huge factor. UCL seems to be in the vacant center of football club geography in London and there's no obvious choice here.
Premier League isn't completely necessary... though, I think I'd prefer Premier or Championship so that I may be able to find streams of the games overseas. I could be convinced to support a lower division team, however.
I've definitely eliminated Chelsea, Arsenal, and Spurs as I don't want to jump on the bandwagon of a larger club... and I'd like to be able to afford to actually attend an occasional match.
I'm leaning toward QPR and West Ham -- mainly because I'm most familiar with these two clubs from Green Street Hooligans and The Four Year Plan. But, I'm completely open to any and all suggestions. Thanks!
I'm a Reading fan, and here are my views on a few of the London clubs you haven't ruled out:
West Ham
Never been too keen. Don't play particularly nice football, fan base seems a bit obsessed with 'winning the '66 World Cup'. Their support is pretty great though and they're a huge club soon to be playing at the Olympic Stadium.
Fulham
Nice club, nice stadium! Struggling at the moment which would mean they'd be a very strong team in the Championship.
Crystal Palace
Not very central, time in the PL is surely limited. And let's just say the stadium has 'character' :P
QPR
Currently doing their best to buy the Championship, and not succeeding terribly well. Arrogant tax-evading **** of a manager. Their current squad could/should challenge for Europe. It's insane how much money goes into that team.
Millwall
Unless you like fighting, steer clear.
Leyton Orient
Could well be in the Championship next season, nice club if you like an underdog.
Brentford
Would probably be my pick. Similar to Leyton Orient.
Charlton
Used to be a PL regular, now fighting for Championship survival. Nice club with a nice manager, but not looking like they're going to challenge for success any time soon.
Objectively I'd probably choose Fulham but it's up to you, choosing a team shouldn't be a rational decision!
Original post by Zürich
Haha, get ****ed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=689aE77dpQU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOLcAopLeBk
Surely the OP is a wum. Surely.
Barnet.
Original post by Wilfred Little
I literally heard the player's complaints last time.
But Arsenal are poncy and that, innit?
Original post by Wilfred Little
Name an entertaining derby involving Villa?
Name an exciting game with Villa players?
But the atmosphere was brilliant at Villa Park?
Original post by Zürich
I literally heard the player's complaints last time.
But Arsenal are poncy and that, innit?
But Arsenal are poncy and that, innit?
You are though. All your fans are Jafaican bellends or Tarquins. Serious question; do you genuinely think southerners can bring it to northerners when it comes to football culture?
I rate the real cockney types from West Ham and those sorts but other than them?
Of the 12 founding members of English football, how many were southerners? 0. The south is massively under represented when it comes to football, then you get Arsenal fans trying to argue they are as good as those from the north.
You lot are fannies, your fans are known for denching and Soccer AM sort of stuff. You're a ****ing embarrassment.
Original post by Zürich
Name an entertaining derby involving Villa?
Name an exciting game with Villa players?
But the atmosphere was brilliant at Villa Park?
Name an exciting game with Villa players?
But the atmosphere was brilliant at Villa Park?
Every time you criticise the atmosphere at Villa you're hammering a rusty nail into your own argument.
Oh and exciting derby - four days ago? lol
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