Ed Miliband - What sort of PM would he be?

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There has been plenty of discussion surrounding whether Ed Miliband will indeed become our next 'esteemed' Prime Minister.

I want to know though, what sort of PM would he be? Not just on the axis of successful vs omni-shambolic, but also:


As stern as a well-done steak or as floppy as a depressed Eton Mess?

As charismatic as a president or as deflated as an old helium baloon?

As ground-breaking as Erick Pickles on a diet or as forgettable as the Conservative's 2010 manifesto? :awesome:


Despite the jest in the questions, I'm looking for some serious (thinking-hats on), analysis/predictions, not the standard cop-out answer of "better than Cameron".

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Not a very good one. Do you want to be represented by Gollam on the world stage?
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he'd make our country a national embarrassment; at least david cameron and gordon brown had voices that didn't make you cringe. his voice is basically anybody's impression of a rich snob (which is typical coming from the labour party), with a lisp added. I won't comment on his bert-from-sesame-street appearance, his voice is bad enough. I have no idea how the labour party put up with such a extraordinarily spectacle of a "leader"
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Even though David Cameron and co. are unpopular to many, at least they make decisions that affect this country (and hey, some even work!). A prime minister is judged by the impact they make, which is why people like Disraeli, Churchill and Thatcher are some of the most recognized as PM. Ed Milliband would be the equivalent of a soggy piece of bread in a gutter: taking up space and not doing anything. He would pander to the people so much we would move nowhere as a country. If it were his brother, David, then that would be a more interesting discussion. But Ed? I would rather have Sauron in charge. At least things would be interesting (and the weather would be warmer from what I see of Mordor).
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(Original post by MatureStudent36)
Not a very good one. Do you want to be represented by Gollam on the world stage?
I personally detest Ed as a politician. He doesn't particularly embody any of the qualities that I want in someone leading my nation's political interests:

- Charisma
- Honesty
- a pragmatic mindset
- a true democratic-mandate of 50+ percent (fairly obvious prediction)

This thread isn't about my opinion though!
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(Original post by MatureStudent36)
Not a very good one. Do you want to be represented by Gollam on the world stage?
Better Gollum than a Communist, or is he merely a Zionist?

Why does the UK working class vote for Labour the globalists anyway? Inasmuch as they covet and grasp and claw wealth through ever increasing taxes they are socialist, but due to their global redistribution policy (with a large dollop left over for themselves) it never goes to benefit the poor of this country. Although with their total lack of loyalty or patriotism and open border mindset there are far more "causes" around the world for them to adopt and parade their "caring" credentials so this should come as no surprise. Snakes in the grass.
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Clumsy and possibly naive, but the best of a bad situation.

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he'd make our country a national embarrassment; at least david cameron and gordon brown had voices that didn't make you cringe. his voice is basically anybody's impression of a rich snob (which is typical coming from the labour party), with a lisp added. I won't comment on his bert-from-sesame-street appearance, his voice is bad enough. I have no idea how the labour party put up with such a extraordinarily spectacle of a "leader"
And Wallace.
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Even though David Cameron and co. are unpopular to many, at least they make decisions that affect this country (and hey, some even work!). A prime minister is judged by the impact they make, which is why people like Disraeli, Churchill and Thatcher are some of the most recognized as PM. Ed Milliband would be the equivalent of a soggy piece of bread in a gutter: taking up space and not doing anything. He would pander to the people so much we would move nowhere as a country. If it were his brother, David, then that would be a more interesting discussion. But Ed? I would rather have Sauron in charge. At least things would be interesting (and the weather would be warmer from what I see of Mordor).
Yeah, elected leaders actually responding to the needs of the electorate is just the worst.
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Yeah, elected leaders actually responding to the needs of the electorate is just the worst.
There is a major difference between 'responding to the needs' and 'constantly u-turning dependent on what the public opinion is that month'. He would be reliant on the latter, not the former. There is such a thing as the Tyranny of the Majority, and it would be useful to note that just because one might respond to the electorate, it does not mean they make the right decision. Don't try to twist my words or use sarcasm to undermine my argument, it's childish.
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(Original post by Iamyourfather)
Clumsy and possibly naive, but the best of a bad situation.



And Wallace.
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There is a major difference between 'responding to the needs' and 'constantly u-turning dependent on what the public opinion is that month'. He would be reliant on the latter, not the former. There is such a thing as the Tyranny of the Majority, and it would be useful to note that just because one might respond to the electorate, it does not mean they make the right decision. Don't try to twist my words or use sarcasm to undermine my argument, it's childish.
You aren't making an argument as you aren't backing your points up with anything beyond your own opinion, but don't let that stop your grandstanding appeal to the moral high ground.
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You aren't making an argument as you aren't backing your points up with anything beyond your own opinion, but don't let that stop your grandstanding appeal to the moral high ground.
Don't worry, reading the last sentence of my previous statement wasn't a necessity or anything. I notice you haven't made any points whatsoever, but that is fine. Since I cannot see any way to communicate without personal insults or ad hominem arguments, I will move away from this thread. Have fun!
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Ed Miliband just is not a leader. Just look at him.
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I haven't been very impressed with him so far, he's failed to come up with any particularly new and innovative policies which have grabbed me by the balls and made me want to vote Labour. The policies he has come up with such as the breaking up of the banks, the 50p tax rate and the energy price freeze have questionable validity to say the least.

Whether charisma is a particularly important quality for a PM remains to be seen but he certainly doesn't instill me with any confidence in him, and I don't think having Ed Balls by his side helps either.

I reckon it's still his election to win though (god help us), just whether he'll get enough to win that majority.
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I just read the OPs post on how stupid the benefits debate was, to watch you all say a man can't be a leader because he's ugly. Very few of you have actually given any real reason why he shouldn't be here.
You're a hypocrite.
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He would be a shockingly bad PM. That is the general consensus-not even going to say why-others will say why on this thread and there is no need for me to repeat it. What I will say though is what are the alternatives?

Cameron-in all fairness I disagree with some (actually a lot) of Tory policy but at least he can present himself. That isn't high praise at all for a PM but Miliband wouldn't even get that said about him.

Clegg-wouldn't trust him at all. Miliband is in my view in this camp-nice soundbites but nothing more. I worry for the future of this country if people are fooled by Clegg or Miliband. Obviously Clegg has as much chance as being Britain's next top model as PM but comparing the two in that I don't trust them.

Nigel Farage-we haven't seen enough of him to really judge as a person-but what we have seen of UKIP makes for comic material. A man representing a one issue party, essentially a popular pressure group, one who thinks openly admitting their manifesto was drivel was funny, isn't PM material in my view.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxSOlj370Gw

The upper echelons of UKIP even admitted they have real issues putting together any other policies; Farage may come across well but when your working with UKIP it just doesn't help IMO.

http://www.theupcoming.co.uk/2013/04...policy-vacuum/

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...n-8591797.html


So while Miliband is a poor choice-only Cameron really is anything other than laughable in my view.
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The Tories will win in 2015. Labour has not done enough to deserve/warrant victory.
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I just read the OPs post on how stupid the benefits debate was, to watch you all say a man can't be a leader because he's ugly. Very few of you have actually given any real reason why he shouldn't be here.
You're a hypocrite and an idiot.
I hope that wasn't aimed at me! I didn't decry Miliband on the basis of whether he's shaggable. Churchill was hardly a looker, and see how popular he is now.

I can forgive being called an idiot.
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I'm currently leaning towards a no vote, but, if come September, and Labour and Ed Miliband are looking more likely to win the election, I may vote yes to Scottish Independence!
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I'm currently leaning towards a no vote, but, if come September, and Labour and Ed Miliband are looking more likely to win the election, I may vote yes to Scottish Independence!
And leave us alone with them?! You devious churl!
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