The FGM debate thread?

here's my point of view:
FGM = bad
MGM = also bad
therefore, we should criminal both of them
who's with me?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_genital_mutilation‎
Hello, this is a thread to debate FGM all thoughts (so long as they are well intentioned) are welcome.

Um, everyone. I doubt that anybody would actually try to encourage the practice of genital mutilation.

The reason FGM in particular is getting so much attention lately is because of the sheer popularity of it. In some countries, for instance, it's practically compulsory if you are female. For girls of those cultures currently living in the UK, school holidays are usually the "cutting season", it's all very sick. Practically all FGM gets rid of the clitoris, thus stopping girls and women from ever having orgasms. (As far as I'm aware, circumcision definitely doesn't do that... not to mention that circumcised men aren't at risk of death because of their circumcision. And you don't get hordes of 13, 14, 15 year old boys living in England involuntarily shipped off to their home country in the holidays to undergo it. — i.e. idk why you brought up male circumcision because the OP was specifically referring to FGM?)

Um, everyone. I doubt that anybody would actually try to encourage the practice of genital mutilation.

The reason FGM in particular is getting so much attention lately is because of the sheer popularity of it. In some countries, for instance, it's practically compulsory if you are female. For girls of those cultures currently living in the UK, school holidays are usually the "cutting season", it's all very sick. Practically all FGM gets rid of the clitoris, thus stopping girls and women from ever having orgasms. (As far as I'm aware, circumcision definitely doesn't do that... not to mention that circumcised men aren't at risk of death because of their circumcision. And you don't get hordes of 13, 14, 15 year old boys living in England involuntarily shipped off to their home country in the holidays to undergo it. — i.e. idk why you brought up male circumcision because the OP was specifically referring to FGM?)

whats the debate question, because I refuse to believe you are suggesting that we debate its merits and demerits

What debate? There's nothing to defend. Genital mutilation is cruel.

the objective and goal of both FGM and MGM is to reduce sexual pleasure for the inflicted parties. therefore, what is the difference? if I punch you lightly and you hurt, in comparison to if I punch you hard and you hurt a lot more, are you still willing to argue that I shouldn't be defended against getting punched? the logic is the same if you're saying "it's not as bad as an extreme, therefore, leave it legal regardless of the human rights abuse involved"

the objective and goal of both FGM and MGM is to reduce sexual pleasure for the inflicted parties. therefore, what is the difference? if I punch you lightly and you hurt, in comparison to if I punch you hard and you hurt a lot more, are you still willing to argue that you shouldn't be defended against getting punched? the logic is the same if you're saying "it's not as bad as an extreme, therefore, leave it legal regardless of the human rights abuse involved"

No nothing so crude as that. More of an analysis of it and why it has gathered support.

Eg

Jomo Keynetta argued that FGM was the "conditio sine qua non of the whole teaching of tribal law, religion and morality." Jomo was a serious academic and I believe Keyna's first prime minister.

here's my point of view:
FGM = bad
MGM = also bad
therefore, we should criminal both of them
who's with me?

Not the goal of MGM.



I didn't know that, thats ridiculous. All I can suggest is that some cultures practices are so deeply ingrained they find it hard to acknowledge when the practice is wrong? For example, in some places people are still stoned to death for Adultery.

Not the goal of MGM.

what debate?

the goal of MGM is to remove the foreskin which is the part of the penis that covers and thus sensitises the head of the penis. in effect, it (mgm) nullifies the sexual sensation of the penis. it is a religious ritual of sacrifice, or at least that's how it originated. did I mention that both female and male circumcision is horrifically painful and, in particular, not consented? what right does a parent have to negate sexual pleasure of their son in the same way they don't for a daughter?

There is no debate to be had. FGM is bad and should be eradicated from the world.