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We need to talk about dominant/submissive fetishes in porn.

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Reply 60
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Juichiro
18
Original post by whitecollar girl
Rape culture is massive problem within society and porn which portrays men as dominant sexually does much to perpetuate this. Dominant/submissive fetishes such as BDSM blend sexuality with power and rape is expression of sexuality as power. Allowing young children easy access to this material internalizes dominance of male sexuality and the affiliation with 1.sex and power - aka rape. I propose that pornography displaying these rapey themes should be banned from the internet and distributing it should be a crime. If people really want access to this material then they should have to go to a special shop where you must be over 21 to purchase this material, to prevent children being exposed to rape culture.


I agree that rape culture is a problem but I disagree with the whole 21 thing. WTF? Adulthood is reached at 18. Adults should be able to do whatever they want. Plus you forget something important, BDSM is not like conventional porn, it is about the sexual arousal related to the lack or presence of ability to control or be controlled. Both male and female play dominant and submissive roles. And censorship solves nothing. Criminalising stuff without a due RATIONAL discussion with its due RATIONAL conclusion is a thing that often separates modern advanced countries from undeveloped ones.

Also a couple of nonsensical things you wrote:

1. Rape is more than that. And sex plus power does not equal rape. BDSM is not rape. Consent, you speak it?

2. Why should people have to go a special shop to get BDSM porn? That's discriminating. Remember how bad gender discrimination is? You are doing the same here.
Reply 61
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cid
13
Original post by whitecollar girl

Rape culture is massive problem within society and porn which portrays men as dominant sexually does much to perpetuate this.


False, also you have provided no evidence to back this statement, ...so this is an opinion, just like my false.


Original post by whitecollar girl

Dominant/submissive fetishes such as BDSM blend sexuality with power and rape is expression of sexuality as power.


Both of those things have elements of truth, but to make the assumption they are linked, is like me saying water is clear, it is good to drink, vodka is also a clear drink. And then insisting that because we drink water there is an increase in vodka drinking.


Original post by whitecollar girl

Allowing young children easy access to this material internalizes dominance of male sexuality and the affiliation with sex and power - aka rape.


Allowing children to watch any sort of porn is wrong, Please present proof for the conclusion you have derived from you points up to now, otherwise again this is just speculation.

Original post by whitecollar girl
I propose that pornography displaying these rapey themes should be banned from the internet and distributing it should be a crime. If people really want access to this material then they should have to go to a special shop where you must be over 21 to purchase this material, to prevent children being exposed to rape culture.


What two consenting adults do is completely up to them, this harms no one, children should not be watching it, saying it should be banned because some parents are irresponsible is like saying.

-Alcohol should be banned because some parents are irresponsible and let their kids drink

-Electricity should be banned because some parents are irresponsible and let their kids put forks in power outlets


Also one last time please provide evidence of this "rape culture"
Original post by whitecollar girl
see THIS IS THE PROBLEMhe thinks that WOMEN CANNOT BE TURNED ON BY BEING DOMINANT, HE HAS INTERNALISED FEMALES AS SUBMISSIVE


LOOK I'M talking in CAPS EVERYTHING I SAY MUST BE RIGHT
Ok let's talk about the pay gap you ranted about.

Recent studies done suggest it is minimal in the western world and in many areas women are often paid more or picked just for their gender/sex but feminists always seem to forget that.

Secondly women have periods and potentially maternity leave. Employers, if anything are taking a risk hiring women because once a month they will be, as a matter of scientific fact, subjected too pretty dramatic mood swings and this may affect the quality of the service they deliver for both the employer and the customer.
Reply 64
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awe
14
Original post by whitecollar girl
No no no seeing women as dominant is good as the media brainwashes people into seeing women as submissive objects to be acted upon and '****ed' so we need to counteract this with a positive pro female liberation message



Original post by whitecollar girl
sorry but being able to get access to this explicit material in a few seconds NORMALISES it. If it was harder to get people would realize that it IS NOT NORMAL>


But kinks are kinks - kinks are yours. Kinks are what you do, on your own, kinks are what get you off in your own personal way. I am all for pro fem liberation and ra ra empowerment - but controlling peoples' kinks is NOT the way to go around that. You're trying to grasp something that you have no knowledge of, no experiences with, and in fact limited, bigoted views towards, and you're trying to twist it into a bigger picture that it doesn't apply to.

Kinks are normal to those that have them. -_- Duh.

BDSM porn should not be harder to get. Imagine someone who is thinking they would like to try d/s or binding etc - they have a real interest in it. They want to try it. They are desperate to attempt it. But they can't find any material showing them how it is done, the safe way to do it, what really happened in d/s etc. Porn can help them see what it is about - yes, some of it is warped, but anyone with common sense can see the key elements there.
Porn does the same, i.e serves as a 'guide' and increases the likelihood of safe sex in that area, with lgbt sex. Do you want to ban that, too? If it were banned, people would be left 'experimenting' blindly. Porn can be very educational.
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Reply 65
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Mericcup
7
People in this thread are so whiny, get a grip.

Although porn is fine, it makes absaloute sense that seeing this material isn't good for young kids/preteens/etc and so why not make people have to get age proof for it? Why's everyone getting their panties in a twist? No different to buying a magazine or a DVD. Twits. :cool:
Reply 66
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kunoichi
20
Another person who doesnt understand BDSM. How new.....
Original post by whitecollar girl


Oooh, how very credible. A Tumblr page!

What is this "rape culture" you speak of? Porn is porn and reality is reality. If a child has access to porn it is the fault of their parents. The majority of responsible adults who view BDSM porn do not go around raping women. Ridiculous thread.
Original post by Algorithm69
The majority is not marketed for or enjoyed by women.


Who it's marketed for doesn't matter, women watch porn.
Reply 69
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Juichiro
18
Original post by danny111
Of course you would, you benefit from it.

The mere fact for example that almost all porn videos end with guy jizzing on the girls face is testimony to how animalistic humans are. A lion pack leader would piss and **** to mark his territory and show what is his, the guy uses his jizz in porn. It's a quite clear message of dominance and possession.


While I agree that it can be interpreted as that. Implying that THAT is the ONLY interpretation is nonsense. If someone loves doing that and his partner wishes to satisfy that desire, they should be able to do so. And if there is someone that wants to see it in a video, shouldn't they be able to do so? Sex is not a single-interpretation world where one thing means the same thing for everyone. It is a bit like saying that BDSM is no different to rape. People like different things and not everybody likes what everybody likes. Learning to accept others desires is a must. Otherwise, you will have something like wars among religions but about sex. Can you imagine it? The Sexual Inquisition telling you what is and is not acceptable within sex. I agree that there is a need for a talk. But it needs to be rational rather than emotional censorship-leaning type of talk.
Reply 70
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Juichiro
18
Original post by Precious Illusions
Recently repped but I totally agree with this. You may as well just ban all porn if you're going to ban BDSM.



How is that "aka rape" - a lot of women like being dominated sexually, it does not automatically equate rape...


My Precious Illusions shall receive My Precious Reps. :redface:
Original post by Algorithm69
It does matter if you're arguing dominant women in porn is somehow undermining "Teh Patriarchy" when the porn is made by men, marketed for men, and watched primarily by men.


I'm guessing you have the bull**** statistics to give yourself credibility so fire away. I'm all ears.
Original post by Algorithm69
You want statistics showing more men than women watch porn?


Yes.
Reply 73
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MJ1012
18
Original post by whitecollar girl
I'm not against women being the dominant party as women are oppressed in society and this would be promoting a positive image.



You guys are getting trolled so hard...
Original post by Algorithm69
It does matter if you're arguing dominant women in porn is somehow undermining "Teh Patriarchy" when the porn is made by men, marketed for men, and watched primarily by men.


What does that ahve to do with anything?

But then I don't personally believe porn to be bad, so maybe that's why I don't see it as an issue
Original post by Tyrion_Lannister
What does that ahve to do with anything?But then I don't personally believe porn to be bad, so maybe that's why I don't see it as an issue
how can you be a feminist and be pro porn? dont tell me your one of those "im a feminist but.. " people
Original post by whitecollar girl
how can you be a feminist and be pro porn? dont tell me your one of those "im a feminist but.. " people


No I'm not.

Simply because there is nothing wrong with porn. Men and women enjoy it, and if people want to act in porn, let them. YOU'RE the one stopping people doing what they want by banning porn
Original post by Algorithm69
Um...because that's what the OP was arguing? You are aware you quoted my reply to someone else?


I just read your reply, didn't see what it was replying to. Apologies
Reply 78
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Tootles
21
Original post by whitecollar girl
Rape culture is massive problem within society and porn which portrays men as dominant sexually does much to perpetuate this. Dominant/submissive fetishes such as BDSM blend sexuality with power and rape is expression of sexuality as power. Allowing young children easy access to this material internalizes dominance of male sexuality and the affiliation with sex and power - aka rape. I propose that pornography displaying these rapey themes should be banned from the internet and distributing it should be a crime. If people really want access to this material then they should have to go to a special shop where you must be over 21 to purchase this material, to prevent children being exposed to rape culture.
Hardcore pornography is actually illegal in this country. It's just impossible to enforce because almost everyone accesses it.
Original post by Tyrion_Lannister
No I'm not.Simply because there is nothing wrong with porn. Men and women enjoy it, and if people want to act in porn, let them. YOU'RE the one stopping people doing what they want by banning porn
but it promote a distorted view of sex to young men

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