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Why do some girls wear revealing clothes and then get angry at unwanted attention?

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Original post
by MasterJomi
Ah my bad.

Though there are a lot of hypocritical sentiments on this thread. Implying that it is only rude when men look.


Nah, I think it's just as rude when women do it. I also think it's equally avoidable, but that's besides the point.

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by shadowdweller
Nah, I think it's just as rude when women do it. I also think it's equally avoidable, but that's besides the point.


This.

Also, I haven't seen said comments, which ones?

Keep in mind that the misogynist OP was focused on women, so a lot of comments will just be talking about women exclusively in response to it.

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by Captain Haddock
I've never actually seen or heard of a woman getting angry because of a guy briefly checking them out. It's some made up scenario guys love to get worked up over. If it does happen it's very rare.


This. Usually its the guy getting too intimate, too quickly, being inappropriate, or being creepy.

That said, I dont like date women who go clubbing, dress in a revealing manner, or etc. I guess im quite traditional. In a happy relationship, so haters gon' hate.

Reply 183

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by Alpha brah
This.

Some people seem incapable (or, rather, are pretending to be incapable) of understanding the difference between a quick glance and staring full-on at someone for ages.

It's also funny how some guys take issue with the women's reactions to their acting creepily or unacceptably, as though it's the women's fault. It's like getting angry at Country B for counter-attacking Country A after Country A invaded it first for no good reason.


I see this on the internet all the time from men who presumably don't get out too much - this bizarre idea that if you're anything other than a Brad Pitt then those EVIL SLUTS will freak out if you so much as look at them. If a guy genuinely has recurrent problems with women reacting negatively to his attention then he shouldn't discount the possibility that he actually is being a creepy mother****er, because seriously, this stuff just doesn't happen in normal social situations.

Reply 184

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by Abdul-Karim
Nah, I don't care.


Thought you wouldn't

Reply 185

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by Captain Haddock
I see this on the internet all the time from men who presumably don't get out too much - this bizarre idea that if you're anything other than a Brad Pitt then those EVIL SLUTS will freak out if you so much as look at them. If a guy genuinely has recurrent problems with women reacting negatively to his attention then he shouldn't discount the possibility that he actually is being a creepy mother****er, because seriously, this stuff just doesn't happen in normal social situations.


Same here. Thankfully, the majority of my male friends in real life have their heads screwed on a little tighter. And, yes, I suspect that it's so pervasive on the Internet because those guys tend not to get out as much. :yep:

Seriously, it's not hard to understand. The problem, as evidenced by the numerous sexist, demeaning and misogynist comments from guys on this thread, is that they don't see women as people in the first place, or respect them. If they did those two things, advice like this probably wouldn't even be necessary:

http://jezebel.com/5981581/how-to-talk-to-a-woman-without-being-a-creep

For the record, I used to know two beautiful guys (by virtually everyone's admission; one used to model for Abercrombie & Fitch) who were utter creeps. The "oh she'd be fine with it if I looked like Brad Pitt" thing is a stupid excuse that tries to push the blame for the woman's reaction onto her, not the person acting inappropriately.

Reply 186

The same reason I thought women were decent and innocent when I was short and had a BMI of 30, then became tall and slightly muscular and realised that "I hate talking about dirty stuff" actually means "I only want to talk about dirty stuff with people who are attractive". It's so weird seeing it from both sides like that.

Women generally have no absolute morality which they apply to everything in an equal way.

Reply 187

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by Secretnerd123
I don't intend to offend anyone but why is it that many girls in today's society choose to wear revealing clothes (very short skirts, low neck tops etc.) and then get annoyed when perverted men in the street wolf whistle and try to harass them? Like today for example, I was at the mall and this girl started insulting this dude for 'staring at her breasts' when she chose to wear a low neck top? Surely, if she didn't want such attention, she wouldn't have worn that top? This isn't the first time i've witnessed something like that in public and just curious as to why some women act like this?



In my school, girls are now forbidden to wear skirts (yes, any type of skirts or dress!)/ see-through tops/ high-heel shoes etc. to avoid this kind of situations (I go to a co-ed school). I don't know why it has got all strict all of a sudden. :confused:

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Reply 189

Have you ever considered the possibility that girls might like to dress for themselves, as opposed to seeking male attention. Girls like to feel good in their clothes, but equally don't want to be pursued by creepy men who like to objectify women. It all goes back to the "she was asking for it", misconception about rape. As a result of the patriarchy it is girls who are told to cover up and not attract attention, rather than the men being taught that objectification is wrong.

Reply 190

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by Tecclesmith
Have you ever considered the possibility that girls might like to dress for themselves, as opposed to seeking male attention. Girls like to feel good in their clothes, but equally don't want to be pursued by creepy men who like to objectify women. It all goes back to the "she was asking for it", misconception about rape. As a result of the patriarchy it is girls who are told to cover up and not attract attention, rather than the men being taught that objectification is wrong.


This 100%. Remind me to +rep you when I recharge tomorrow.

Reply 191

ok some girls wear revealing clothes so that can get attention from the 'right' people which I don't understand much but whatever idk. Some girls wear revealing clothes because they may feel more confident, they're doing it for themselves which is ok. Just to be clear, not all girls are out there to impress men and things like cat-calling are actually not that nice, a girl would feel uncomfortable walking down a street and suddenly hearing some guys cat-call at her. I guess it's hard to understand how a female's mind works but maybe women feel uncomfortable with all these compliments because they're afraid it can lead on to harassment, rape etc.

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by TNA123
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and if you showed a person who was raping you this poster would they be likely to say "You're damn right there!" and walk away?

Reply 193

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by aspirinpharmacist
Because I think the top looks nice? To be honest, I feel more awkward about having my shoulders exposed, I have a few tops that are quite low, they don't show any cleavage (because there's not that much to show), but you can see my collarbone and stuff (and apparently collarbone fetishes are a thing?) but I don't really feel like I'm revealing much by wearing them because I've usually got a cardigan on as well. Also in summer I like to wear dresses and not wear tights because it's hot and if it's sunny in Britain and I can get away with it, you bet I'll take advantage. Doesn't mean I want to be treated like a sex object. Or if you're going to comment, do it tastefully, like "You have nice legs", not "Phwoar, I'd do her" kind of thing. Not that anyone's done that (as far as I know), but I wouldn't enjoy it if they did.

Also, for girls who've got larger breasts, it's pretty damn hard for them to wear anything other than turtlenecks without some kind of cleavage showing, so there's no need for people to act like they're just doing it for male attention, why can't they have nice clothes too?


THIS! It's so annoying when people make comments about women with larger breasts having a cleavage on show. More often than not, they can't help it. What's worse is that turtlenecks make your breasts look even bigger and look really unflattering most of the time so you're damned either way.

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by aeon439
and if you showed a person who was raping you this poster would they be likely to say "You're damn right there!" and walk away?




I find your comment totally ignorant and disgusting, TBH. Read up on rape culture and victim blaming rather than opening your mouth about issues that conveniently don't affect you negatively in future. :rolleyes:

No other victim-blaming culture exists around a crime the way it does around rape. Studies have shown that an alarming amount of guys would rape if it wasn't explicitly called rape:

http://yesmeansyesblog.wordpress.com/2009/11/12/meet-the-predators/

It is not women who need to be told to change their behaviour, it is men, and the general societal attitude as evidenced here that "if women do this they can expect this and deserve it" also needs to change.

Reply 195

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by TNA123
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Lets try and stick to the topic of the thread eh?

Reply 196

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by c_al
Lets try and stick to the topic of the thread eh?


Ah, some men trying to silence women's voices on women's issues. How original. :rolleyes:

Reply 197

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by Alpha brah


I find your comment totally ignorant and disgusting, TBH. Read up on rape culture and victim blaming rather than opening your mouth about issues that conveniently don't affect you negatively in future. :rolleyes:

No other victim-blaming culture exists around a crime the way it does around rape. Studies have shown that an alarming amount of guys would rape if it wasn't explicitly called rape:

http://yesmeansyesblog.wordpress.com/2009/11/12/meet-the-predators/

It is not women who need to be told to change their behaviour, it is men, and the general societal attitude as evidenced here that "if women do this they can expect this and deserve it" also needs to change.


Have you heard yourself?

Nowhere did I blame any woman for being raped

what I do blame women for is thinking they can walk round dressed how they like and not be at risk of harassment or rape

A woman can be sensible in terms of how she behaves or not

Intelligent women don't take stupid risks with their safety because they know that there are people out these who will do as they please if given the opportunity, regardless of how 'against women's rights' it is

it is you who misses the point here I think

who is safer? you wanting the perfect right to go out naked/semi-naked (according to your poster) but (unrealistically) not expecting any comeback from it or me dressing sensibly?

not only do you fight for this right to be utterly stupid with your safety but you castigate the very people who advise caution ie who are focused on keeping women safe!

No right-minded person thinks anyone deserves to be raped but the type of people who rape are not going to go away; they are always present in society, so you need to mitigate for their presence in society by dressing and acting accordingly eg not getting blind drunk and leaving yourself vulnerable to attack

I don't see why it's a bad thing to think women should take responsibility for their behaviour when the alternative can be bad things happening to them

I am saying 'I'll try and avoid being raped'; you are saying 'I'll do as I please and the rapist just shouldn't be doing the raping in the first place'

not hard to see which is the most sensible option, given that rape is not going to go away overnight, if ever
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Reply 198

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by Alpha brah
Ah, some men trying to silence women's voices on women's issues. How original. :rolleyes:


Ah, some women trying to silence the actual point of the thread by derailing it with irrelevant posts. How original :rolleyes:

Reply 199

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by Tyrion_Lannister
Strong argument :rolleyes:


The lack of logic is strong with him. :teehee:

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