Opposition to the death penalty

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It seems opposition to the death penalty is becoming popular these days but why?

I for one, only oppose it due to the fallibility of the judicial system.
I do not object from it morally however. I certainly believe that the punishment should fit the crime.

In my opinion, death would have been a just punishment for the Woolwich murderers. However, life imprisonment is sufficient too as it still fits the crime, ie a life for a life.

The main advantage that life imprisonment has is that a wrongful imprisonment is slightly more forgivable than a wrongful execution. They both pretty much do the same thing (provided life means life and no early release etc).

I'm sure many oppose the death penalty for this reason too, but I'm sure many oppose it because apparently proper justice is too barbaric.
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I would rather just put them to work and send the victim's families the earnings. Make some use out of them.
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I also only oppose it because of our justice system, there is always the risk of executing the wrong person, even if that risk has reduced over the years. If such a thing as a perfect justice system existed I would support the death penalty but that is never going to happen.

Aside from that, there's also the cost of the process, which would increase with the death penalty because of an endless appeals process. Often imprisonment can actually be cheaper.

I certainly don't agree with the moral arguments against it though.
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Killing is wrong. It's as simple as that.

There is absolutely no justification for taking another persons life under any circumstance whatsoever, in my view.
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Killing is wrong. It's as simple as that.

There is absolutely no justification for taking another persons life under any circumstance whatsoever, in my view.
Isn't imprisoning someone against their will also wrong?
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Isn't imprisoning someone against their will also wrong?
No.
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No.
Why not?
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Killing is wrong. It's as simple as that.

There is absolutely no justification for taking another persons life under any circumstance whatsoever, in my view.
By saying that, you're spitting on the graves of all the soldiers who died in defence of your freedom.
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By saying that, you're spitting on the graves of all the soldiers who died in defence of your freedom.
Actually that's true. I think war can be justified.
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I believe that people who commit the worst crimes should have a choice:

1) Accept whole-life imprisonment?

2) Be killed?

Custody without possibility of parole actually seems a far worse ordeal to me than a swift hanging. That may have something to do with my complete lack of belief in an afterlife.
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No.
But imprisoning someone against their will removes their liberty.
And what is life without liberty?

Nothing worth living in my opinion.
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Actually that's true. I think war can be justified.
Yes, the trouble with pacifists is that their enemies don't share their ideals.
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But imprisoning someone against their will removes their liberty.
And what is life without liberty?

Nothing worth living in my opinion.
People are released from prison.
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People are released from prison.
Hopefully not for crimes where I'd say life imprisonment (or death) could be just.


Temporary imprisonment is just in most cases as most crimes aren't deserving life imprisonment.
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Hopefully not for crimes where I'd say life imprisonment (or death) could be just.


Temporary imprisonment is just in most cases as most crimes aren't deserving life imprisonment.
I disagree. People are evaluated, those deemed suitable for release have a second chance at life having served their time. You can't re-evaluate a corpse.
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Actually that's true. I think war can be justified.
:rolleyes:
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:rolleyes:
To clarify, I don't think it's right that the state should kill the people that it is there to protect. That war can be justified is irrelevant.
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(Original post by Falcatas)
It seems opposition to the death penalty is becoming popular these days but why?

I for one, only oppose it due to the fallibility of the judicial system.
I do not object from it morally however. I certainly believe that the punishment should fit the crime.

In my opinion, death would have been a just punishment for the Woolwich murderers. However, life imprisonment is sufficient too as it still fits the crime, ie a life for a life.

The main advantage that life imprisonment has is that a wrongful imprisonment is slightly more forgivable than a wrongful execution. They both pretty much do the same thing (provided life means life and no early release etc).

I'm sure many oppose the death penalty for this reason too, but I'm sure many oppose it because apparently proper justice is too barbaric.
I'm opposed to punishment solely for the sake of punishment/retribution/revenge/whatever.
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To clarify, I don't think it's right that the state should kill the people that it is there to protect. That war can be justified is irrelevant.
war can be started on economic grounds(oil $$$)-is the state-provided protection legit in this case?

Suppose the statement"the state is there to enforce laws that protect the people"- the murderer/aggressor breaks these and hurts lots of people.Is he deserving of state protection?are his victims not worthy of justice? are potential victims undeserving of permanent elimination of those threatening their safety?
:rolleyes:
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war can be started on economic grounds(oil $$$)-is the state-provided protection legit in this case?

Suppose the statement"the state is there to enforce laws that protect the people"- the murderer/aggressor breaks these and hurts lots of people.Is he deserving of state protection?are his victims not worthy of justice? are potential victims undeserving of permanent elimination of those threatening their safety?
:rolleyes:
No.
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