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Rakas21
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With 2014 marking 40 years since England last gave a plurality to a genuine left wing government i put it to you that despite Ed Miliband not being fully socialist, defeat for Ed Miliband under the circumstances of the election (prolonged austerity and falling living standards) would represent a decisive rejection of English socialism.

While it is true to say that Ed Miliband is not a true socialist we know now that his campaign will rely on three key pretty left wing policies, even if not a true socialist this means that he will contest the 2015 election as the most left wing candidate since Kinnock, 23 years earlier..

1) Direct labour subsidies via the jobs guarantee

2) Direct price intervention via the energy freeze

3) Raising the tax threshold to 50%

When one bears in mind that Blair was hardly a socialist (he did more to privatise the NHS than Thatcher ever dreamed) and that England actually gave a plurality to the Tories in 05 (albeit by 0.1% even if the electoral system gave them the most seats) that means that 1974 was the last time it gave a truly left government a majority.

While it's odds on that Labour will win right now (ICM has them 4-8% ahead in 17 of the last 22 months) there's a chance that Cameron can still make the Tories the largest party.

What do the people of TSR think? Just a rejection of ED (i.e. you just need some charisma to go with socialist policies) or symptomatic of the fact that as i and others believe, England is a center-right country on the whole.
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as were able to talk complete rubbish on here now;

if Cameron loses does it represent a rejection of English capitalism?
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as were able to talk complete rubbish on here now;

if Cameron loses does it represent a rejection of English capitalism?
Given that capitalists have broadly won the last 8 elections, no.

There's also no reason to call a thread rubbish, if you disagree then there is a poll with the option to vote 'No'.
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Given that capitalists have broadly won the last 8 elections, no.

There's also no reason to call a thread rubbish, if you disagree then there is a poll with the option to vote 'No'.
Ed Millibland is a Capitalist as well so you are asking an absurd question with no basis other than the fact you are desperate for any excuse to attack Socialism, which is frankly pathetic in the extreme.
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