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At their recent conference this week UKIP unveiled their new slogan "Love Britain, Vote UKIP".
The only problem is that is was a BNP slogan during their 2010 campaign.
Bizarre slogan if you ask me, especially since UKIP have been accused on the past of being nothing more than BNP-lite and have received criticism for their links to the far-right (both in terms of membership and party affiliations).
A spokesperson for UKIP appeared on The Daily Politics yesterday and couldn't really justify the use of the phrase - the best she could come up with is that "no party has monopolised the use of the English language".
I can only imagine that UKIP were not aware that the BNP had previously used the slogan.
Thoughts on the situation? Should UKIP abandon the phrase? Is it in their interests to keep it? Will it go down well with the electorate?
The only problem is that is was a BNP slogan during their 2010 campaign.
Bizarre slogan if you ask me, especially since UKIP have been accused on the past of being nothing more than BNP-lite and have received criticism for their links to the far-right (both in terms of membership and party affiliations).
A spokesperson for UKIP appeared on The Daily Politics yesterday and couldn't really justify the use of the phrase - the best she could come up with is that "no party has monopolised the use of the English language".
I can only imagine that UKIP were not aware that the BNP had previously used the slogan.
Thoughts on the situation? Should UKIP abandon the phrase? Is it in their interests to keep it? Will it go down well with the electorate?
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(Original post by Burridge)
At their recent conference this week UKIP unveiled their new slogan "Vote Britain, Vote UKIP".
The only problem is that is was a BNP slogan during their 2010 campaign.
Bizarre slogan if you ask me, especially since UKIP have been accused on the past of being nothing more than BNP-lite and have received criticism for their links to the far-right (both in terms of membership and party affiliations).
A spokesperson for UKIP appeared on The Daily Politics yesterday and couldn't really justify the use of the phrase - the best she could come up with is that "no party has monopolised the use of the English language".
I can only imagine that UKIP were not aware that the BNP had previously used the slogan.
Thoughts on the situation? Should UKIP abandon the phrase? Is it in their interests to keep it? Will it go down well with the electorate?
At their recent conference this week UKIP unveiled their new slogan "Vote Britain, Vote UKIP".
The only problem is that is was a BNP slogan during their 2010 campaign.
Bizarre slogan if you ask me, especially since UKIP have been accused on the past of being nothing more than BNP-lite and have received criticism for their links to the far-right (both in terms of membership and party affiliations).
A spokesperson for UKIP appeared on The Daily Politics yesterday and couldn't really justify the use of the phrase - the best she could come up with is that "no party has monopolised the use of the English language".
I can only imagine that UKIP were not aware that the BNP had previously used the slogan.
Thoughts on the situation? Should UKIP abandon the phrase? Is it in their interests to keep it? Will it go down well with the electorate?
(See bold).I don't think it would matter if the BNP had used the same slogan. Personally, i'm more interested in UKIPs policy rather than their advertising.
That being said I think the slogan lacks meaning/significance; any party could go around saying ''Love Britain, Vote *Party Name*''.
Also, when they say ''Britain'', are they referring to the place (it's geography, the services that are available, the standard of living, etc) or the 'British Culture' (the flag, the queen, tea, complaining about the weather, small talk, etc)?
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Party slogans are all pretty dull if you ask me.. 'Vote for Change', 'One Nation' etc etc..
Its just something thats catchy.
Its just something thats catchy.
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(Original post by SHallowvale)
Typo...
(See bold).
I don't think it would matter if the BNP had used the same slogan. Personally, i'm more interested in UKIPs policy rather than their advertising.
That being said I think the slogan lacks meaning/significance; any party could go around saying ''Love Britain, Vote *Party Name*''.
Also, when they say ''Britain'', are they referring to the place (it's geography, the services that are available, the standard of living, etc) or the 'British Culture' (the flag, the queen, tea, complaining about the weather, small talk, etc)?
Typo...
(See bold).I don't think it would matter if the BNP had used the same slogan. Personally, i'm more interested in UKIPs policy rather than their advertising.
That being said I think the slogan lacks meaning/significance; any party could go around saying ''Love Britain, Vote *Party Name*''.
Also, when they say ''Britain'', are they referring to the place (it's geography, the services that are available, the standard of living, etc) or the 'British Culture' (the flag, the queen, tea, complaining about the weather, small talk, etc)?
I too am more interested in their policies, but having such a slogan certainly doesn't help the parties image.
And I imagine that they are referring to both the place and the culture e.g they aim to 'protect' Britain from the EU and aim to protect our culture, for example, by introducing a compulsory dress code for taxi drivers - I understand that Farage has abandoned his 2010 manifesto, but he has said that UKIP's next one will be "similar in flavour".
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Your Point on its copying the BNP slogan is correct but most people are able to distinguish between the two.
I think the problem here is that only the UKIP party will go out on the limb and say they want us to choose, the two other parties have let us slide into being even more closely tied into Europe as the years go by with some information coming out that in the early days there was actually a group actively colluding to sleep walk the UK into Europe before we actually realised it. (no I cannot give my citations but I remember reading this info somewhere on the web but I am busy with assignments at mo - Sorry)
Personally I do not have any real issues with Europe as an idea or as a trading group what concerns me is that I have never seen a list of the benefits (we all hear "we are better off being part of Europe" but HOW ?????) set against the costs and then we could easily see the facts - but no one has done this ! so are we really better off?
I think the problem here is that only the UKIP party will go out on the limb and say they want us to choose, the two other parties have let us slide into being even more closely tied into Europe as the years go by with some information coming out that in the early days there was actually a group actively colluding to sleep walk the UK into Europe before we actually realised it. (no I cannot give my citations but I remember reading this info somewhere on the web but I am busy with assignments at mo - Sorry)
Personally I do not have any real issues with Europe as an idea or as a trading group what concerns me is that I have never seen a list of the benefits (we all hear "we are better off being part of Europe" but HOW ?????) set against the costs and then we could easily see the facts - but no one has done this ! so are we really better off?
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#7
Hardly a surprising slogan for them. I doubt there'll face too much of a backlash with regards to the BNP thing - it'll just make their hardcore voters more devoted and alienate the people who already see them as quasi-racist.
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(Original post by Burridge)
The only problem is that is was a BNP slogan during their 2010 campaign.
The only problem is that is was a BNP slogan during their 2010 campaign.
It's trite, but no more or less so than any other party's slogans.
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(Original post by L i b)
I don't think that's remotely a problem. Only a handful of people could've told you that fact.
It's trite, but no more or less so than any other party's slogans.
I don't think that's remotely a problem. Only a handful of people could've told you that fact.
It's trite, but no more or less so than any other party's slogans.
It is a problem. It's creates a bit of an image crisis. What makes it worse is that the party has received much criticism in the past for being, at times, a little too extreme. Recycling a slogan previous used by perhaps the most far-right party in Britain really doesn't send out the right message.
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While we politicos will no doubt question its merit we must remember that Ukip are not aiming to attract the type of floaters that typically decide elections, they are trying to form a coalition of the apathetic, ex Tories and generally those who value sovereignty and immigration above the traditional middle class voting priority, the economy.
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#13
UKIP should have done their research. They'd have never used a former BNP slogan if they had known.
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(Original post by barnetlad)
UKIP should have done their research. They'd have never used a former BNP slogan if they had known.
UKIP should have done their research. They'd have never used a former BNP slogan if they had known.
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The slogan itself is pretty bland and inoffensive. When I first read it I had no idea that it had been a BNP slogan, or even what any BNP slogans are or have been, for that matter.
It shows that the party bureaucracy is not very competent at playing the political game, but a lot of people don't like the political game. That aspect of UKIP actually has some appeal.
This is the real problem with the slogan, though it's also true of all other party slogans I can remember off the top of my head. Labour's current slogan has been explicitly copied from the Conservatives!
It shows that the party bureaucracy is not very competent at playing the political game, but a lot of people don't like the political game. That aspect of UKIP actually has some appeal.
(Original post by SHallowvale)
That being said I think the slogan lacks meaning/significance; any party could go around saying ''Love Britain, Vote *Party Name*''.
That being said I think the slogan lacks meaning/significance; any party could go around saying ''Love Britain, Vote *Party Name*''.
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(Original post by barnetlad)
UKIP should have done their research. They'd have never used a former BNP slogan if they had known.
UKIP should have done their research. They'd have never used a former BNP slogan if they had known.
(Original post by hj.Foster)
I don't think they give two schnitzels, they are a neo-fascist party, why wouldn't they want to take ideas and votes from another neo-fascist party?
I don't think they give two schnitzels, they are a neo-fascist party, why wouldn't they want to take ideas and votes from another neo-fascist party?
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(Original post by thesabbath)
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Loving ones country is not a requisite for fascism, no matter what the far left tell you.
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(Original post by Burridge)
I honestly think that it's a little humiliating for UKIP and Farage. They made a mistake. In hindsight, I guarantee they would not have used that slogan.
I honestly think that it's a little humiliating for UKIP and Farage. They made a mistake. In hindsight, I guarantee they would not have used that slogan.
One thing is for sure, no one could accuse any of the three old parties of Loving Britain.
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