Ukrainian/Russian Tensions Megathread

How would you know if they would not agree, did you ask these nations? Chinese says that they'd gladly join with China at the Far East. Somehow, I think, too, that if you let people in Kaliningrad to vote where they'd rather live - in Germany or Russia, most would choose Germany.

How would you know if they would not agree, did you ask these nations? Chinese says that they'd gladly join with China at the Far East. Somehow, I think, too, that if you let people in Kaliningrad to vote where they'd rather live - in Germany or Russia, most would choose Germany.

See, you, too, agree that Russia can't control Crimea situation, so it employs armed people instead of the police, special police forces and such to control the situation. In a democratic country, with the strong government, there is no need for "guys in balaclavas", who hide their faces and perform illegal arrest. Also, you confessed that the orders to kill these seven or eight people came from Moscow. It means that Russia is establishing a reign of terror and illegal arrest and murders with the help of armed militants. Armed militants are killing people on sight because of orders from Kremlin.

The majority of Crimean can vote for whatever, even to get your bank account, it does not make such a vote "legal" for them to take over your bank account. They should have voted to be an independent country first, and to join Russia afterwards, so the referendum is not legal, deal with it.

You are know signing a different song. At first, you stated that I "wanted UN troops in Ukraine". Now, you say that I said "locals should ask for peace keepers". How is "locals should ask for peace keepers" and "UN troops in Ukraine" are the same? I know how Russians lie, first then say one lie, when they are caught, they say an absolutely different lie and don't even apologize for the first lie, but yours are going too far.
You seem to be very confident when you talk as a mouthpiece for ALL Crimean people. You know that the majority want, and you know that the majority disagrees with me. As you are not ALL Crimean people, do post me some proofs that ALL Crimean people "disagree" with me. Especially about the murders, ordered by Kremlin.

"Areas" can't vote to join something or other, accordingly to Ukrainian constitution, and it's so in the most democratic countries. Only the whole country can vote in such a referendum, not some "area".

You can establish through plebiscites which have been done and if you knew your history past GCSE WW1 then you'd know that widespread expulsions and deportations of ethnic germans from the east means that Kaliningrad is no longer Ethnically German, you think russians would want to join Germany?

The actual death toll according to reliable sources sits at 600 billion.

Which democratic country is this you speak of? Russia? Ukraine? Neither are real democracies.

And of course the Kremlin's behind the deaths - this is hardly ground-breaking news. But to think that Russia can't control the situation in Crimea is absurd: the men in balaclavas are scaring any 'undesirable' minorities out of Crimea, which is what the Russian government wants.



Again, no one in Crimea or Russia cares whether its legal or not. You make the mistake of imagining that they have a high regard for democracy - this is not the Western world.

Whether legal or not, Crimea is now part of Russia - deal with it.



In English please.

Crimea did.

See, vatnik, you agreed that local people need some peace makers to protect them from armed bandits, who kill people at broad daylight and roam the streets. Who cares if you have high regard to democracy or not - other people do, and something must be done. Also, why are you constantly talking about Ukraine? What does Ukraine have to do with Russian territory, called Crimea, which is under the rule of armed bandits? Russians can never answer for themselves. You say - the bandits are terrorizing and killing people by order of Moscow, the vatnik whines - Ukraine is not a democracy. You say - poor people in Crimea need protection, vatnik whines - you said that you wanted UN armed forces in Ukraine. I understand that brightness is not the main strength of the vatniks, but at least follow some basic logic in your random ranmblings.

It was not legal, as you yourself confessed, so why are you repeating this again and again? Krokodil?

And you fail to grasp the point that no one in Crimea cares whether it is legal or not, after all, the democratically-elected President of Ukraine was overthrown illegally.

Next you'll be saying Kosovo's declaration of independence is legal, as was the war in Iraq.

The double standards are hilarious.

No one in this thread even knows what you're on about.

Lay off the Ukrainian vodka.

Guys your arguing with somebody called Stalin about Russia.... He's out to wind you up, it'd be like arguing with a Hitler should Germany suddenly do something

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The situation in Ukraine is out of hand and we should respond with full military action. Statistics have been falsely reported on the matter to avoid having to act militarily. The actual death toll according to reliable sources sits at 600 billion.

Also excluding Crimea Russia had invaded almost 19 million sq miles of Ukrainian territory. How much more death and despair must go on before we act??