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Marxist organization of the internationale is coming, I am based in 'Britain'. If you want to ask questions about Marxism/why you like/don't like it. I'll adress them and help you down the road to becoming a proper Marxist.
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Why aren't I a Marxist? Have you read Das Kapital?!! I tried and got as far as page 8, with about, I seem to recall, 9,000 pages to go.
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Because I'm not a total moron
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Thousands of people have died as a result of Karl Marx's ridiculous ideologies. That is why I am not a marxist.
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Many people are in the sense of idealism, but in reality due to greed and corruption it doesn't work.
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Why aren't I a Marxist? Have you read Das Kapital?!! I tried and got as far as page 8, with about, I seem to recall, 9,000 pages to go.
Marxist isn't just about Marx just as Christianity isn't just about Jesus Christ or Buddaism about the Buddha or Islam about the Islu al murri. Gosh
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Because the free market provides efficiency whilst government regulation of industries can ensure exploitation is avoided.
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Marxist isn't just about Marx just as Christianity isn't just about Jesus Christ or Buddaism about the Buddha or Islam about the Islu al murri. Gosh
But it helps to read what he said, right?
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But it helps to read what he said, right?
Nah marx was a massive isomorphic bender, read eagles insed
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Because Marxism is an ideology which can sometimes be promoted dogmatically, thus I avoid the term 'Marxist' and synthesise Marxist theory with Anarchist theory, as well as Communist theory in terms of revolutionary practice.
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Nah marx was a massive isomorphic bender, read eagles insed
You mean this guy?

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When Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels were active, or when the Communist Manifesto was first published in 1848, it's worth remembering that we were still talking about a world in which:

- Child labour was not only tolerated but encouraged - particularly in Industrial Britain
- The concept of universal healthcare was widely unheard of
- The right to vote was non existent and 'democracy' was a plaything of the rich (1 in 7 men could vote in the UK in 1848)
- People could be shipped off to Australia for life for a litany of offences

I'd be guilty of massive oversimplification (if not outright lying) to suggest that Marx was directly responsible for these changes or that social reform would have never happened with no Marx and Marxism.

But the fact is that Marx and Engels are remembered and their names have endured amongst the plethora of social thinkers and philosophers who lived in the 19th century. State education, healthcare (even in the diluted form that exists in the US, for example) universal suffrage, worker's rights are all examples of social change that are far closer to Marxism/socialism than to capitalism. You literally cannot disagree with this assessment without misinterpreting the terms - capitalism particularly.

This next bit is much more opinion based; but my belief is that to blame Marx as a person or Marxism as a concept for the millions (not thousands) of deaths that resulted from the regimes of Stalin, The Soviet Union or Mao is in my opinion terribly narrow minded.

To begin with, neither 'communist' China nor 'Communist' Soviet Union are really true examples of communism itself, let alone Marxism. They are much closer to what I'd define as State Captalism; and even if they were financially Marxist, the level of intolerance and social repression present in those regimes was certainly not a Marxist principle.

If you claim Marxism is an evil because of the deaths that are attributable; then by the same logic and precent I will claim national sovereignty and statehood to be an evil. Over the course of human history I couldn't even imagine how many deaths territorialism and nationalism are directly responsible for. But, at the end of the day, it's not that simple.
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(Original post by Macymace)
Marxist organization of the internationale is coming, I am based in 'Britain'. If you want to ask questions about Marxism/why you like/don't like it. I'll adress them and help you down the road to becoming a proper Marxist.
I really like the ideologies of Karl Marx. That guy was a genius. His works on how society changes and what brings change makes the readers more rational and they see life from a different perspective.

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Because people are stupid and don't understand Marxism nor the contemporary refinements to the ideology. Most of these people haven't read a page of das kapital.
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Marxist organization of the internationale is coming, I am based in 'Britain'. If you want to ask questions about Marxism/why you like/don't like it. I'll adress them and help you down the road to becoming a proper Marxist.
Because I feel defined by Russia's history sometimes. Like when people hear I'm originally from Russia, it's like they instantly think "communist! Better get outta here!" We moved to England when I was two. We were going to go to America, but my parents thought that might be a stretch too far in the early 90's. Anyowl, we embraced the capitalism and shnit. Left our political ideologies at the airport and learned to love Britbrain.
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Because as much as theoretically a society of total equality and shared membership sounds fantastic, in realistic terms it will never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever work. Because everyone has different needs, wants, fears, aspirations, dreams, skills, handicaps etc.
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