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Whats The Difference?

Anyone could help me about the degree name, qualification and usefulness of it after the 4/5 or 6 year medicine school programs?

Uni of Aberdeen Medicine (A100) 5FT Hon MB
Uni of Birmingham Medicine (5 yrs) (A100) 5FT Hon MBChB
Uni of Cambridge Medicine (A100) 5FT/6FT Hon MB
Uni of Warwick Medicine MBChB (A101) 4FT (????) Hon MBChB
Uni of CL Medicine (6 years) (A100) 6FT Hon MBBS

EXPLAIN PLEASE: What is MB, MBChB, MBBS and what is the difference between them and why is warwick uni ONLY 4 years?
Reply 1
4 year courses are graduate entry - warwick only take grads.

The abbreviations all mean the same thing... There is no difference
Reply 2
Well, they're all medical degrees for a start, ending up with you being able to call yourself 'Dr' and get a job as an F1 doctor. The difference in length and course code are to do with what you need for entry...

The medical school at Warwick is for graduates only, hence is a condensed course so lasts only four years. It's not the only graduate course - if you're interested, a UCAS Course Search will list them all.

Most undergraduate programs last five years - hence the information you've posted. In some there is the option to do an intercalated degree (an extra year spent studying a particular area leading to a BSc or BA degree). In other places (eg Oxbridge, Imperial College London), intercalating is compulsory, so the course lasts for six years.

Other six year courses however include a foundation year - these are designed for those without the approriate A-levels to start the five year course.

A quick search on Wikipedia explains MbChB, MBBS and so forth:

MBBS or BMBS = Bachelor of Medicine, Bachelor of Surgery.
MBChB or BMBCh or MBBChir = Medicinæ Baccalaureus & Baccalaureus Chirurgiæ.

MB ChB is used at the universities of Birmingham, Bristol, Leeds, Leicester, Liverpool, Keele, Manchester, Sheffield, and Warwick.
MB BS is used at the University of East Anglia, Hull York Medical School, the University of London, and University of Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
BM BCh is used at Oxford.
BM BS is used at University of Nottingham, Peninsula Medical School and Brighton Sussex Medical School
BM is awarded at the University of Southampton. Although no degree in surgery is formally awarded by Southampton, this degree is equivalent to the MB ChB, and students may go on to a career in surgery the same as any other graduates in medicine and surgery.
MB BChir is awarded by the University of Cambridge.

As for the course codes:
A100 - standard five-year course.
A101 - graduate (four-year) course.
A104 - six-year course.
A106 - second-year entry into a six-year course. Essentially a five-year course as A100, just the university set it up slightly differently on their system.

Google, Wikipedia, UCAS, and the Search tool at the top of the forum were all very useful in constructing this post... :wink:
Reply 3
Well, they're all medical degrees for a start, ending up with you being able to call yourself 'Dr' and get a job as an F1 doctor. The difference in length and course code are to do with what you need for entry...

The medical school at Warwick is for graduates only, hence is a condensed course so lasts only four years. It's not the only graduate course - if you're interested, a UCAS Course Search will list them all.

Most undergraduate programs last five years - hence the information you've posted. In some there is the option to do an intercalated degree (an extra year spent studying a particular area leading to a BSc or BA degree). In other places (eg Oxbridge, Imperial College London), intercalating is compulsory, so the course lasts for six years.

Other six year courses however include a foundation year - these are designed for those without the approriate A-levels to start the five year course.

A quick search on Wikipedia
explains MbChB, MBBS and so forth:

MBBS or BMBS = Bachelor of Medicine, Bachelor of Surgery.
MBChB or BMBCh or MBBChir = Medicinæ Baccalaureus & Baccalaureus Chirurgiæ.

MB ChB is used at the universities of Birmingham, Bristol, Leeds, Leicester, Liverpool, Keele, Manchester, Sheffield, and Warwick.
MB BS is used at the University of East Anglia, Hull York Medical School, the University of London, and University of Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
BM BCh is used at Oxford.
BM BS is used at University of Nottingham, Peninsula Medical School and Brighton Sussex Medical School
BM is awarded at the University of Southampton. Although no degree in surgery is formally awarded by Southampton, this degree is equivalent to the MB ChB, and students may go on to a career in surgery the same as any other graduates in medicine and surgery.
MB BChir is awarded by the University of Cambridge.

As for the course codes:
A100 - standard five-year course.
A101 - graduate (four-year) course.
A104 - six-year course.
A106 - second-year entry into a six-year course. Essentially a five-year course as A100, just the university set it up slightly differently on their system.

Google, Wikipedia, UCAS, and the Search tool at the top of the forum were all very useful in constructing this post...
You are a treasure prof! How did you go to your exams btw? And what F1 is?
Reply 4
Hey,
The compulsory 6 year courses (i.e. Imperial) also go by course code A100, so be sure to check in the respective prospectus, in case you don't want to do that compulsory intercalated degree.
Reply 5
giwtis10
You are a treasure prof! How did you go to your exams btw? And what F1 is?
http://www.bma.org.uk/ap.nsf/Content/BecomingDoctorintro

Cheers! No problem. As for exams, I've just finished my A-levels and am waiting on my grades - results day here is 17th August. I'm hoping for AAA, but who can tell?
Reply 6
Most undergraduate programs last five years - hence the information you've posted. In some there is the option to do an intercalated degree (an extra year spent studying a particular area leading to a BSc or BA degree). In other places (eg Oxbridge, Imperial College London), intercalating is compulsory, so the course lasts for six years.


So, a graduate with an intercalated degree can get more as a first salary, or get more qualification which will be ACTIVE in his CV?
Reply 7
giwtis10
So, a graduate with an intercalated degree can get more as a first salary, or get more qualification which will be ACTIVE in his CV?


Nope - starting salary is the same regardless. Only influenced by job banding and proportion of sociable and unsociable on call hours - which will not exist when we qualify, as the NHS has to be fully European Working Time Directive by 2009...
Reply 8
So, what do you suggest choosing for the 2008 entry? a 5year programme or a 6year programme? you have confused me...(yes, I am planning to work in UK also)